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Product purchase question
Posted by: Adam Curtis (74.7.62.---)
Date: November 30, 2011 12:42PM

Hi guys,

I had a question about purchasing blanks and the condition of them when you receive them. I'm new to the craft so this is an honest question I was hoping to get feedback on.

When you order a brand new blank, should that blank arrive already removed from its plastic packaging and with china markings on it? Is this like going to home depot and getting a 2x4 that already has pencil on it or should that puppy be new?

Thank you for your time.

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Re: Product purchase question
Posted by: Mike Barkley (---.nap.wideopenwest.com)
Date: November 30, 2011 01:11PM

I have never seen one with china markings on it. As to the plastic bag, that depends on the company. They should definitely be new!! It will usually have a label (usually on the butt) with blank info on it. You didn't say, but hopefully you aren't buying from an @#$%& site where you have no way of knowing what you are actually getting. Stick and you will be fine with reputable vendors such as any of those on the left

Mike (Southgate, MI)
If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!!

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Re: Product purchase question
Posted by: J.B. Hunt (---.ppoe.dsl.logantele.com)
Date: November 30, 2011 01:23PM

Adam;
When I buy blanks, I always buy from the Vendors on the left side of this page. They always come in a plastic sleeve with a sticker on the butt giving the nomenclature of the blank. Some even come with separate decals packed inside the sleeve. When they come packaged this way, I am assured they are top quality, number one blanks.They never have markings on them with a china marker.
I would be leary of them if they came packed as you described.



Mike; we were typing at the same time. I guess you use more fingers than I do.

J.B.Hunt
Bowling Green, KY



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/30/2011 01:27PM by Jay Hunt.

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Re: Product purchase question
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: November 30, 2011 01:25PM

First quality rod blanks from reputable manufacturers include a label on the blank and are generally packed in a poly bag with header card.

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Re: Product purchase question
Posted by: Adam Curtis (74.7.62.---)
Date: November 30, 2011 01:29PM

This blank was from a dealer on the left. It was packaged as you say, with the header card, blank decal and plastic poly bag however the plastic bag was opened, the blank removed and a black china marker marking was on it. The blank number sticker on the butt also had handwriting over one of the numbers changing it from a 2 to a 3.

I'm gathering this isnt normal?

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Re: Product purchase question
Posted by: Adam Curtis (74.7.62.---)
Date: November 30, 2011 01:34PM

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/30/2011 03:26PM by Adam Curtis.

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Re: Product purchase question
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: November 30, 2011 01:39PM

No it's not. I'd check with the dealer. It may be something that someone returned. Either way, if you're not comfortable with it, ask for a replacement.

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Re: Product purchase question
Posted by: Adam Curtis (74.7.62.---)
Date: November 30, 2011 01:48PM

I'm wondering why it was shipped in the first place? Pretty obvious black marking on a white blank.

Hey, now I know. I'll adjust my purchasing habits accordingly!


Thanks guys!

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Re: Product purchase question
Posted by: mike harris (---.cluster-h.websense.net)
Date: November 30, 2011 02:02PM

That is actually pretty common, if you ask the dealer to check fit a reel seat, size winding checks or fit something else. It is a nice service that the dealer provides, if you didn’t request anything like that it is possible they test fitted the blank for another customer, the sale fell through and they put it back into stock. Most dealers wouldn’t see this as a big deal since nearly every custom builder puts his own marks on the blank as soon as we start working on them.

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Re: Product purchase question
Posted by: brad parker (167.225.107.---)
Date: November 30, 2011 02:13PM

I have received that same blank. It did have the 2 marked out and a 3 wrote in. Figured they ran out of labels with the 3 on it. But never had one with china marks on it. As long as the blank is in good shape, I would not worry about it. If it does bother you, just give the vendor a call. Most of the vendors on this site will make it right for you.

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Re: Product purchase question
Posted by: Adam Curtis (74.7.62.---)
Date: November 30, 2011 02:42PM

So this is common or not common?

Tone kind of changed after I said it was a left side dealer. ;)

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Re: Product purchase question
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 30, 2011 02:43PM

call the supplier and ask about it

like said you can get a replacement if you want just make sure it is what you ordered

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Product purchase question
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: November 30, 2011 02:56PM

Lots of suppliers will buy blanks in bulk. For example, they might buy 10 or 100 or 1000 at a time.
When they receive the blanks they will often receive them in large cardboard boxes, that may or may not have individual wrappers on the blank.


Then, when the supplier resells the blanks they may choose to place the blank in a poly bag or not If not, the blank will be received in a simple tube. It may or may not have a poly bag on the blank.

Many of todays blanks are made off shore. They may be made in the US, China, or some other off shore country. If it is made in another country, it may or may not have a label of origin on the blank.

So, the blank that you have received, is likely a first run blank, made in china from a quality supplier - to directly answer your question.

There are less and less manufacturers of any product in the US any more. This certainly holds true for fishing rod blanks as well. Even blank manufacturers that are head quartered in the us often have manufacturing plants in other countries.

Enjoy the quality product that you have received and build a great rod on the blank.

Roger

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Re: Product purchase question
Posted by: Adam Curtis (74.7.62.---)
Date: November 30, 2011 03:25PM

Really appreciate the feedback guys. As a new builder I just look at buying these products like I do any other. Without the background information it leaves a guy like me confused at time of opening the package.

Spoke to the dealer who said that while this isnt common, it could also happen by innocent mistake. They referenced the re-bagging that Roger talks about. Although minor, they apologized, end of story for me.

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Re: Product purchase question
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: November 30, 2011 03:38PM

It might be a easier if you just specified the blank manufacturer (not supplier) so we'd have a better idea of what it is that you supposedly bought. There's a lot of guessing going on because no one knows exactly what make blank you purchased. In order to tell you if this is common or not, a little more information is needed.

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Re: Product purchase question
Posted by: Adam Curtis (74.7.62.---)
Date: November 30, 2011 03:59PM

Tom,

I have spoken to the dealer now. Probably could have started there but I didnt even know if this was a common issue to begin with let alone call them on it. I've also had some iffy experiences with the CS department. I was transfered to a manager I guess and he made me feel better about the situation.

Conclusion, the china marker is not common but can happen as some of you explained. The bag being opened was related to that and they also re-bag the blanks from the mfg. plant as Roger explained. - the rod butt sticker was a mistake at the time of mfg. but they knew of it coming in as Brad explained. They hand wrote the correct number on there. All pretty innocent stuff if you know these things can happen. I didnt.

Two things I'm thankful for.

The feedback and experience shared here. - accurate!
The way the manager listened and explained things to me. - reputable!

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Re: Product purchase question
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 30, 2011 04:04PM

All ya got to do most times is ask

Bet ya feel better now

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Product purchase question
Posted by: Ryan Higgins (---.130.132.122.nwinternet.com)
Date: November 30, 2011 05:48PM

The only markings on the blanks I receive are the china markings where the supplier has sized up my components to properly size my aluminum winding checks.

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Re: Product purchase question
Posted by: Mick Batson (---.olypen.com)
Date: December 01, 2011 09:31AM

Just a follow up from Utmost Ent...Customers who buy a blank with all of the components from us will most likely find the white china markings on their blank. Especially with split grip set-ups that have multiple metal winding checks. That way, they know we have fit everything to their blank.

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