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Guide weight data
Posted by: Harry Boyd (---.shv.bellsouth.net)
Date: November 25, 2011 10:18AM

I'm searching for online data regarding weights of various sizes and styles of guides for fly rods. Seems to me I have seen it in the past but cannot find it now. Weights of snake guides, single foot wire guides, and single foot ceramic guides are all of interest to me. Any help you might provide will be appreciated. And if you have information on weight differences between wrapped and finished guides (double foot versus single foot) that will be helpful as well.

Thanks,

Harry Boyd

Harry Boyd

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Re: Guide weight data
Posted by: Col Chaseling (---.lnse4.cht.bigpond.net.au)
Date: November 25, 2011 07:03PM

Hi Harry,

Weighed some guides a couple of weeks ago.

Fugi TLSG-4J weighed 0.0502 grams. They're size 4 single foot, titanium frame and SiC ring.

DBlue Ti-SiC-DBSG-B1 weighed 0.190 grams. They're size 6 single foot, titanium frame and SiC ring.

DBlue SS-SiC-DBSG-B1 weighed 0.311 grams. They're size 6 single foot, stainless frame with SiC ring.

DBlue Ti-SiC-LNTSG weighed 0.263 grams. They're size 6 double foot, titanium frame with SiC ring.

DBlue SS-SiC-LNTSG weighed 0.387 grams. They're size 6 double foot, stainless frame with SiC ring.

Not much but you can see the difference between size 4 and size 6, also the difference between stainless and titanium frames.

Hope that's some help.

ESFNEM Col
Port Kembla, NSW
Australia

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Re: Guide weight data
Posted by: Eugene Moore (---.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com)
Date: November 25, 2011 07:45PM

Harry,
Here's what I've accumulated.
Sorry don't use inserted guides on fly rods
My apology Col, not to steal credit for your work. Just an addition to.

Weight of guide with wraps (grams)
Wrap weight was assumed on a rod with a 4/64 tip dia

#1 light wire titanium single foot .058
#2 light wire titanium single foot .066
#3 light wire titanium single foot .067
#4 light wire titanium single foot .102

#1 std wire titanium single foot .070
#2 std wire titanium single foot .081
#3 std wire titanium single foot .084
#4 std wire titanium single foot .132

#1 light wire steel single foot .081
#2 light wire steel single foot .095
#3 light wire steel single foot .098
#4 light wire steel single foot .158

#1 std wire steel single foot .078
#2 std wire steel single foot .125
#3 std wire steel single foot .129
#4 std wire steel single foot .215

#1 light wire titanium double foot .097
#2 light wire titanium double foot .108
#3 light wire titanium double foot .110
#4 light wire titanium double foot .158

#1 std wire titanium double foot .114
#2 std wire titanium double foot .130
#3 std wire titanium double foot .133
#4 std wire titanium double foot .200

#1 light wire steel double foot .130
#2 light wire steel double foot .149
#3 light wire steel double foot .153
#4 light wire steel double foot .237

#1 std wire steel double foot .162
#2 std wire steel double foot .190
#3 std wire steel double foot .196
#4 std wire steel double foot .316


Also [www.rodbuildingtutorials.com]
Weights for Recoil titanium gudes from manufacturer

Eugene Moore



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2011 08:42PM by Eugene Moore.

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Re: Guide weight data
Posted by: Col Chaseling (---.lnse4.cht.bigpond.net.au)
Date: November 26, 2011 12:45AM

Hi Eugene,
No apology required. From the stuff I did there's only a little relevant to this post. Looks like you've been busy on the scales as well.

ESFNEM Col
Port Kembla, NSW
Australia

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Re: Guide weight data
Posted by: Dale Holmes (---.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au)
Date: November 26, 2011 02:54AM

Thanks for posting that Eugene - I had been thinking just recently I would like to find some data like that as a means of comparison.

Dale
Hobart, Tasmania, AUS

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Re: Guide weight data
Posted by: Bill Stevens (---.br.br.cox.net)
Date: November 26, 2011 08:57AM

Very valuable information above.

Would any of those with scales and the required patience happen to have the weights of the thread and finish that was required to attach those guides to fishing rod?

How does the weight of the encapsulation compare to the weight of the guide?

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Re: Guide weight data
Posted by: Eugene Moore (---.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com)
Date: November 26, 2011 10:38AM

Bill,
Weight of thread and finish was based on work done by Emory Harry and published in a previous Rodbuilder.
I deemed his approach sound and committed them to my spreadsheet.
Weight increases with guide size due to foot length and dia of blank at point of wrap.
In some instances weight of thread and finish are higher than the actual guide weight.
Specifically the light wire double foot guides, especially the titanium.

Eugene Moore

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