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top coating entire rod
Posted by: Casey Abell (96.28.123.---)
Date: August 15, 2011 09:37PM

Any thoughts on what is better for top coating an entire painted rod blank... perma gloss or an automotive base / clear system


Thanks

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Re: top coating entire rod
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: August 15, 2011 09:55PM

They're similar products so it comes down to which is easier and most economical for you to obtain.

You can apply PG yourself, most will have to employ an automotive paint shop for the latter.

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Re: top coating entire rod
Posted by: Casey Abell (96.28.123.---)
Date: August 15, 2011 10:09PM

well that brings up a good point.... I would love to know how similar the 2 products are. I restore cars as a hobby so im very familiar with spraying base/clear and have all the equip in my garage. I was more curious the difference in the 2 products and which would hold up better. It would definitely be cheaper and easier to apply PG by hand as I would not need all of the activators and reducers... Not to mention the need to break down equipment for cleanup.

However auto paint sure is tough stuff and is definitely as high tech as you can get in the coatings world.

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Re: top coating entire rod
Posted by: David Dosser (---.columbus.res.rr.com)
Date: August 15, 2011 10:36PM

I have used Lumiseal and Plastikote clear and had good results with both. The Plastikote is very thick and must be applied with several extremely light coats.

David Dosser
Coshocton, OH

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Re: top coating entire rod
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: August 16, 2011 07:50AM

I have not tried it - Yet - But I wonder if you could mix up a very small amount of the Auto Clear and wipe it on as you would PG . PG is fast to set and you have to be quick to apply it But the Auto Clear should be able to be mixed thin and give you a slower set time so it can level

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: top coating entire rod
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: August 16, 2011 09:33AM

The difference in the products is the cure mechanism. Permagloss dries by exposure to moisture (which is why it doesn't like to be run through a spray gun) while the automotive urethane cures by chemical reaction with a hardener/activator.

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Re: top coating entire rod
Posted by: sam fox (208.74.247.---)
Date: August 16, 2011 10:42AM

Be very careful using perma gloss over paint, it is a very hot product as it cures and can ruin some paint jobs. It is an excellent product over bare blanks but very touchy in compatability with paint,especially fresh paint that has not complely cured. I have not tried lumiseal over paint but I think it might be a better product for this application.

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Re: top coating entire rod
Posted by: Casey Abell (96.28.123.---)
Date: August 16, 2011 11:03AM

Well it looks like auto paint / clear may be the way to go.

I may eventually try what Bill mentioned and mix up some with a slow activator and see if it can be brushed on. That would eliminate the cost and time in breaking down spray guns etc....

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Re: top coating entire rod
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: August 16, 2011 11:17AM

Casey,
Likely the best way to go is to polish the blank and after the rod is finished, apply a light coat of wax and rub the wax down for a nice sheen.

Save lots of weight and lots of trouble that way.

Good wraps.

Roger

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Re: top coating entire rod
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: August 16, 2011 01:07PM

Casey

The sponge paint brushes at home depot may be the way to apply. ??

Since you have the equipment to spray it why not use an air brush to spray. easy to clean

Bill - willierods.com



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