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Thread packing after CP
Posted by: Chuck Mills (---.gctel.stellarllc.net)
Date: August 11, 2011 08:34PM

I am having trouble keeping a wrap tight after packing. It is an optical chevron done with Gudebrod A over Sulky metallic. I am going to try a coat of CP and then try packing the last few threads. Thoughts?

Thanks!

Chuck

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Re: Thread packing after CP
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: August 11, 2011 08:43PM

Do your packing before applying CP, or prior to the CP beginning to set. Once the CP sets, packing becomes very difficult if not impossible.

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Re: Thread packing after CP
Posted by: Chuck Mills (---.gctel.stellarllc.net)
Date: August 11, 2011 09:01PM

That's what I was thinking - before fully set.

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Re: Thread packing after CP
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 12, 2011 07:38AM

Is the wrap closed? If so you just aren't packing properly. YOu have to move the threads on both sides of the crossover points. I really need ot do a DVD

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Re: Thread packing after CP
Posted by: Rick Vohden (148.177.1.---)
Date: August 12, 2011 07:47AM

i've found that packing the cross points before and after the point i'm trying to pack also helps keep the threads tighter and in line

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Re: Thread packing after CP
Posted by: Chuck Mills (---.grenergy.com)
Date: August 12, 2011 08:26AM

Billy - no, I sent you a picture.

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Re: Thread packing after CP
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 12, 2011 09:22AM

OH!! THat's an easy fix, and doens't require you to pack after CP.
1. Take a white thread and make 2 more passes of the Chevy with it
2. Pack everything IN, form teh last threads you laid down to teh firs t(outsid eto in)
3. Look carefully and see if ther are any gaps, and f so pack from teh inside to the outside. That should remove ALL gaps
4. Apply CP.
5. cut white thread, peel it off
6. Apply CP again

Th last threads you lay down in an open wrap will bounce open no matter how well oyu pack them sinc enothing is locking them in place. The 2 white thrads allow you to do this

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Re: Thread packing after CP
Posted by: Chuck Mills (---.grenergy.com)
Date: August 12, 2011 10:01AM

Perfect! Thanks!

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Re: Thread packing after CP
Posted by: Dave Barrett (---.ma.emulex.com)
Date: August 12, 2011 10:54AM

Here is another solution, one that works even if you're not going to use CP. Superglue!

Put a drop of superglue on a piece of aluminum foil and get a tooth pick.
Pack the threads.
When they are where you want them, get the tooth pick. Touch the superglue with the tooth pick but do not dip it into the super glue. You are trying to get just the tiniest amount of superglue on the tooth pick.
Now touch outer most thread at the crossover point. You want to touch the thread where it makes contact with the blank, NOT the topside of the thread.

Done properly this will adhere the thread to the blank without saturating it. The bond is not strong but it is enough to hold everything in place while a coat of CP or epoxy is applied and dries. Since the thread is not saturated, the glue points will absorb the CP/finish pretty much the same as the rest of the thread. The glue points are invisible. I've done this with both regular thread and metalics.

Dave

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Re: Thread packing after CP
Posted by: Chuck Mills (---.grenergy.com)
Date: August 12, 2011 11:39AM

They never stay where I want them. ;)

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Re: Thread packing after CP
Posted by: Joe Willsen (---.isp.broadviewnet.net)
Date: August 12, 2011 01:14PM

Billy Vivona Wrote:
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> OH!! THat's an easy fix, and doens't require you
> to pack after CP.
> 1. Take a white thread and make 2 more passes of
> the Chevy with it
> 2. Pack everything IN, form teh last threads you
> laid down to teh firs t(outsid eto in)
> 3. Look carefully and see if ther are any gaps,
> and f so pack from teh inside to the outside. That
> should remove ALL gaps
> 4. Apply CP.
> 5. cut white thread, peel it off
> 6. Apply CP again
>
> Th last threads you lay down in an open wrap will
> bounce open no matter how well oyu pack them sinc
> enothing is locking them in place. The 2 white
> thrads allow you to do this


Thanks for that Billy......it seems so simple yet...

You are very generous with your experience/knowledge.

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Re: Thread packing after CP
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: August 12, 2011 01:42PM

Yep
That is one of the little tricks I learned from the thread Guru Like he said the last several threads will not pack --- so add several more and you can always take them off

Gee Billy ya got to take some of those Thingees off your posts so they ain't so long

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Thread packing after CP
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 12, 2011 07:56PM

Thanks Joe, i'm glad you appreciate teh info. Bill it's funny the only people who have complained about my signature are those who don't order anything, lol.

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Re: Thread packing after CP
Posted by: Chuck Mills (---.gctel.stellarllc.net)
Date: August 12, 2011 09:12PM

All they need is a bigger monitor. ;)

Thanks for the help Billy. As soon as my visiting granddaughter goes to bed I will finish the wrap.

Chuck

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Re: Thread packing after CP
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: August 13, 2011 09:37AM

Only Billy has got to do some thing different

The bar on the bottom of the screen works well OK now where is that post button O way ------ over --------------------------------------------------------------------here

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Thread packing after CP
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 13, 2011 10:16AM

Bill, are you serious? My browser window shows up just fine. I assumed everyone else's did too.

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Re: Thread packing after CP
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: August 13, 2011 04:11PM

Please

there have been posts about the way your posts are set with all the xs and os making them soooo looooong

It is no big deal I Don't Care and was only Playing with you

Chill

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Thread packing after CP
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: August 13, 2011 04:12PM

Please

there have been posts about the way your posts are set with all the xs and os making them soooo looooong

It is no big deal I Don't Care and was only Playing with you

Chill -- take another tote

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Thread packing after CP
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 14, 2011 08:17AM

The only other person I saw mention it is Roger.

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Re: Thread packing after CP
Posted by: Mike White "Saltheart" (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: August 15, 2011 05:46PM

Billy Vivona Wrote:
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> OH!! THat's an easy fix, and doens't require you
> to pack after CP.
> 1. Take a white thread and make 2 more passes of
> the Chevy with it
> 2. Pack everything IN, form teh last threads you
> laid down to teh firs t(outsid eto in)
> 3. Look carefully and see if ther are any gaps,
> and f so pack from teh inside to the outside. That
> should remove ALL gaps
> 4. Apply CP.
> 5. cut white thread, peel it off
> 6. Apply CP again
>
> Th last threads you lay down in an open wrap will
> bounce open no matter how well oyu pack them sinc
> enothing is locking them in place. The 2 white
> thrads allow you to do this


Great tip Billy! Why white thread?

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