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Rod Repair
Posted by: Tom Loew (---.arvig.net)
Date: August 11, 2011 02:30PM

Hello guys it's ben awhile.
I have a repair question. First, i've never have fixed a broken rod so i have a couple questions.
A friend of mine gave a rod to fixafter he fixed it. The rod broke about 2"off the tip. He super glued a drill bit in it.
A fish was caught and broke the rod splintering the the 2" piece all the way to the tip top.
My questions are how to get the super glued drill bit out of the rod end and can the splintered 2" tip
of the rod be saved?
I hope this makes sence and this is also a 400.00 custom rod.
Thanks bunch
Tom Loew

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Re: Rod Repair
Posted by: John Britt (---.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com)
Date: August 11, 2011 02:40PM

First I think I would have a few words with the repair person, what he did is totally wrong and caused further damage I doubt at this point the 2" top section can be repaired it might be possible to use a section of blank from a different rod blank use an oversleeve on the rear portion and the 2" tip section, i assume the drill bit is stilled glued into the butt section if so you could try mild heat and tap it out from the rear or if it extends past the blank top pull it out gently with pliers after heating
John

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Re: Rod Repair
Posted by: Jeff Seabridge (---.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 11, 2011 04:04PM

I don't know how much I would trust that blank with what you have said was done to it. Your talking about a lot of work to "maybe' fix it. If your game I would cut out the bad section and then try what John says and try to fit a piece. I would not get my hopes up by if the fix works then so be it !
My opinion:
Forget it,. God knows what that metal bit did to the structure of the blank.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/11/2011 04:11PM by Jeff Seabridge.

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Re: Rod Repair
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: August 11, 2011 04:10PM

Build him another rod Does not sound like any type of repair would be worth it Money wise

If you want to play - have at it A new tip ???

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Rod Repair
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: August 11, 2011 05:09PM

It is possible to scarf on a new tip from a piece of new stock. But it's not for amateurs. Ralph O'Quinn has done a few repairs of this nature for friends of mine and all have been very satisfied. You might search for his email address here and see if he's willing to do one for you, or check his repair article in the library here. I think he covered that repair near the end of the article.

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Re: Rod Repair
Posted by: John Britt (---.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com)
Date: August 11, 2011 05:14PM

Tom the more I think about this the more I doubt any kind of tip repair is possible,you fail to state the type of rod and if it is 1 or 2 piece. i believe overall if you can get the drill bit out of the lower section, you might try Acetone the primary ingredient in debonder to remove it I would simply move the guides to reduce the stress on the blank just like building a new rod and put a tip on it, that would be the least expensive way at this point and if the remaining portion of the blank is ok he only looses 2 inches from the tip and at least still has a useable rod
John

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Re: Rod Repair
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: August 11, 2011 05:38PM

Losing 2 inches can make a whale of a difference in action, power, casting, etc. Ralph has performed this repair for several guys I know, scarfing on a completely new couple of inches. The results have been remarkable - none of them can tell any difference from their original rod (unless they look at it).

But I'll grant you it's not for the timid or inexperienced. The selection of a new tip section alone requires very astute judgement.

It may well be toast other than doing what John suggested, or obtaining a new tip section (if it's a 2-piece rod).

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Re: Rod Repair
Posted by: Mike Bradford (---.war.clearwire-wmx.net)
Date: August 11, 2011 09:22PM

Tom: You said this was a $400 custom rod, but didn't say what type of rod, or who made the blank. You also didn't say how much use the rod had after the owner glued the drill bit in the tip. Is this a one piece rod or multi piece? What caused the break in the first place? For me, the simplest and best repair for a multi piece name brand blank is: get a replacement section for the rod, and wrap it to match the other sections. My concern is, if the rod originally broke because it was over stressed (casting a weight heavier than it was rated for, or using a line test heavier then the rating), and now you glue a steel drill bit in the tip section, and continue to over stress the rod, you have compounded the problems. The rod will flex different adding stress. The weight of the drill bit in the tip section will add more stress. All of this stress has to go somewhere. I would look for more problems farther down the blank. I don't do many repairs, so all of this just my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions.

Mike Bradfrod
R.M.B. Fishing Rods
Nampa, Idaho

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Re: Rod Repair
Posted by: Tom Loew (---.arvig.net)
Date: August 12, 2011 10:01AM

Sorry guys
The rod is a St.Croix Sling Blade 8'6" 2-6oz 1-piece
Musky fisherman
Thanks
Tom

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Re: Rod Repair
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: August 12, 2011 07:20PM

Tom,
I would find a piece of blank that matched the original tip.
Then, I would trim the rod back to about there the 3rd or 4th guide from the tip is located.
Then, splice the new tip section back onto the rod.

Knocking off 2 inchs of a sensitive rod- essentially ruins it. Also, it is next to impossible to do a decent repair in that section of the rod.

So, just cut off a large section of the rod, and put back on a tip that has the same tip action as the original.

I just repaired a rod like that last week. The repaired rod has essentially the same action as the original.


Be safe
Roger

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Re: Rod Repair
Posted by: Don Morse (99.102.149.---)
Date: August 13, 2011 08:56AM

I am with Roger on this one, I have done the same repair and very happy with the outcome.

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Super Tight Lines......Don

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Re: Rod Repair
Posted by: George Forster (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: August 15, 2011 02:18PM

2 inches on a Musky rod, capable of throwing 6 oz. lures...I wouldn't even bother with a splice, at least initially. Cut out the bad section; hot glue a new tip on, and go give it a cast. It might work just fine. If not, you can always try splicing on a new section.

George Forster
Fort Collins, CO

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