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Problems with Simple Spiral on a very large diam. blank. 2nd bumper guide possible?
Posted by: Max Klee (---.netcologne.de)
Date: November 29, 2010 04:44PM

Hi,

the diameter of the blank I´m working on right now is so large, that the normal simple spiral method that I usually use won´t work. I just can´t get the line properly around the blank without the line rubbing. Since I don´t like other methods like the revolver, I was wondering if I can use a second bumper guide for the simple spiral. Instead of one bumper in the middle at 90°, two bumpers at about 45° and 135° and staying with the 8 inch between butt guide and first 180.

Thanks for your advice

Max

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Re: Problems with Simple Spiral on a very large diam. blank. 2nd bumper guide possible?
Posted by: Andrew Metzger (---.afspc.af.mil)
Date: November 29, 2010 04:57PM

You sure can.. I made one rod with one bumper guide that way and all the rest have had two transition guides.

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Re: Problems with Simple Spiral on a very large diam. blank. 2nd bumper guide possible?
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: November 29, 2010 05:01PM

Yes you can, or you can just use a higher framed single bumper guide.

Out of curiousity, how far apart are your first and second guides (not the bumper - the 0 and 180 degree guides)?

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Re: Problems with Simple Spiral on a very large diam. blank. 2nd bumper guide possible?
Posted by: Max Klee (---.netcologne.de)
Date: November 29, 2010 05:19PM

Hi Tom,


> Out of curiousity, how far apart are your first
> and second guides (not the bumper - the 0 and 180
> degree guides)?

I always put the first two guides 20cm/8inch away from each other.

What would you prefer, a higher framed bumper, which I don´t like because of the extra lever or an extra bumper? I never use bumpers larger than a BLAG7, because the 8 is already too high in my opinion. I always start with a BLNAG6-8 and the first 180° is a BLAG4.

Max

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Re: Problems with Simple Spiral on a very large diam. blank. 2nd bumper guide possible?
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: November 29, 2010 06:06PM

It shouldn't be a lever because the only pressure on it will be directly back into the rod blank. There shouldn't be any side pressure on a bumper guide.

If you have a very slow action blank, you might opt to locate it at from 100 to 110 degrees instead of 90.

If you do decide to use 2 guides, that's fine. But I'd experiment with a higher bumper and/or a larger ring on the butt guide. Either or both may solve your problem.

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Re: Problems with Simple Spiral on a very large diam. blank. 2nd bumper guide possible?
Posted by: Duane Richards (---.ronkva.east.verizon.net)
Date: November 29, 2010 07:20PM

Me, I'd take that bumper out of the equation and do a slow spiral. Just line the guides up all on top as usual, flip them all to the bottom except the 1st 3 coming from the reel. Offset the 1st guide from the reel about 10 degrees and adjust the other 2 accordingly all in the same direction to get as straight a line path as possible. This works VERY well for me even on larger blanks like Musky/Salt rods. Just an option.

DR

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Re: Problems with Simple Spiral on a very large diam. blank. 2nd bumper guide possible?
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: November 29, 2010 07:28PM

I do exactly the same thing that Duane does and it works very well on all sized blanks.

Roger

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Re: Problems with Simple Spiral on a very large diam. blank. 2nd bumper guide possible?
Posted by: justin keithley (---.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com)
Date: November 29, 2010 07:47PM

i had a brain fart with a flipping stick. got it all done and ran line through it and managed to get the bumper in the wrong spot.... must've been in a hurry (personal rod). I just added another guide at the point where the line was hitting the blank and called it good. Looks a bit unconventional, but then again - not much about a spiral wrap does.

Regards,
-Justin

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