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wrap spreads when color epoxy dries
Posted by: lorenzo tellez (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: November 26, 2010 05:55PM

I Don't know if my wrap is to loose or tight, but when I put the epoxy and it starts to dry, I look at it and the threads are like pulled apart, caused it, it happened twice so far, hopefully it doesn't happen on the next rod. I know that the wraps are tightly burnished together, cause I even looked at them under a magnifier before I epoxied them.

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Re: wrap spreads when color epoxy dries
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
Date: November 26, 2010 06:12PM

Sounds like they are too loose if they were OK after burnishing. Assuming you are using a rod wrapping thread.

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Re: wrap spreads when color epoxy dries
Posted by: lorenzo tellez (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: November 26, 2010 06:27PM

I am using Pro Wrap thread mettalic, I am sure they are tight enough, I always check the tension so it is not to loose, they were ok after I burnished them, could it be that I loosened them on the burnishing?

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Re: wrap spreads when color epoxy dries
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
Date: November 26, 2010 07:13PM

IF you need to burnish thy arnt' tight enough. When you wrap them there shouldn't b any gaps that need burnishing.

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Re: wrap spreads when color epoxy dries
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
Date: November 26, 2010 07:34PM

It is risky to burnish metallic thread because they are a composite material and burnishing may loosen the layers within the thread.. Ii you wrap tight enough and pack the wraps as you proceed, there should be no need to burnish, in fact it can be detrimental.

It sounds like the burnishing is the culprit!

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Re: wrap spreads when color epoxy dries
Posted by: lorenzo tellez (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: November 26, 2010 09:48PM

Thank you all for your answers, now I know why.

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Re: wrap spreads when color epoxy dries
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: November 27, 2010 06:15PM

Lorenzo,
It is pretty tough to do MAIN wraps with metallic thread for the reasons mentioned above.

Have you thought about using standard thread for the main wraps, and then using metallic wraps for the trim wraps?

Roger

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Re: wrap spreads when color epoxy dries
Posted by: Duane Richards (---.ronkva.east.verizon.net)
Date: November 28, 2010 07:22AM

Like Billy suggested, you need to pack the threads AS you wrap. Get all the spaces out and you won't even need to burnish.

Never burnish metallic.

I use metallic wraps as a main wrap all the time and never have ANY issues what so ever. Matter of fact, I have come to like using metallic s as a main wrap way better than standard threads. No fuzz, no hassle and just as strong or stronger. Some metallic's are easier to work with and "better" in quality than others.

DR

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Re: wrap spreads when color epoxy dries
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: November 28, 2010 11:21AM

Duane,
Since you don't have any issues with metallics, as I tend to do.
What do you use for a thread tension device when wrapping metallics?
Roger

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Re: wrap spreads when color epoxy dries
Posted by: Adam Edwards (210.9.200.---)
Date: November 29, 2010 10:15PM

I'm using the Pro Wrap metallic thread and I have found you can burnish it without damage. In fact it comes up pretty good. These are just on underwraps and for trims so done pretty quickly with very small gaps and not heaps of tension. I have also changed thread tensioner from teh one that used to compress the thread (was horrible on metallics, it used to delaminate them) to the type where thread is tensioned at the spool. This type of tensioner is heaps better for metallics.

I find the Pro Wrap metallic really silky and smooth and very easy to work with as compared to some other brands.

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