Two part question:

What would be the proper brush cleaning solvent for these coatings? (DNA works OK so far)

And

Is there a thinner that will extend the working time of Permagloss and Lumiseal? Even a few seconds wil get me what I need.

I'm in Florida so there is virtually NO working time with this stuff, specifically Lumiseal, not into the Permagloss yet.

I figured I'd ask before it gets expensive figuring it out for myself. Thanks,

Steve

Xylene. It will easily clean brushes (so will U-40 Brush Cleaner which you can simply allow your brushes to sit in between uses). The Xylene might buy you a couple additional seconds of usable life, but I'm guessing here. I haven't tried thinning either of the products you mention. Neither dries purely by evaporation of a solvent so I'm not sure it's really going to do what you're hoping.

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If you are trying to spray I have no infomration. If you are applying a liquid - Perma Gloss "working time" is over three hours in Louisiana when put in a "shot glass" with a cover.

[www.rodbuilding.org].

There are many threads on this forum on the use of Perma Gloss. Try a search on the words "threadless wrap" and you will find a lot of infomation.

Thanks Tom & Bill.

I guess I wasn't very specific. I'm ok with the working time in the container, I was looking to get more time to allow the product to "flow" once applied to the surface... to release the odd bubble & brush strokes. (Fractions of a second would make a difference I think) I need to get xylene anyway so I'll see what it does.

Bill, My search started at threadless wraps but what I found dealt with thickening the product, not thinning.

Steve

Get some Perma Gloss and give it a try - the viscosity is extremely low. It flows and wets like water when fresh out of the container.

Bill - I will give the Permagloss a try and compare. From the things I read I was under the impression that Lumiseal would be "workable" slightly longer while brushing. I did get xylene today but didn't get a chance to try it yet. Thank you for your help.

I have a new baby at home so anything to do with solvents has been banished to the garage, that's the whole basis of trying to get this to work in high humidity.
Hopefully one of the above mentioned ideas will get the job done.
BTW - This is mainly for coating skinned foam grips, not wraps.

Thank you both again for your help,
Steve

Have you read the new article in RodMaker on coating grips with PermaGloss or Lumiseal? Done per the article, this process takes only seconds and doesn't require any brushing.

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Tom,

I have read the article. I do some grips that can't be completely covered by turning, such as the flat part of the SBSS seat and some other funky contoured stuff that I do. I'll try some things in the next few days and report back if any of it works. Don't get me wrong, they're coming out great but I can't stand knowing that there is any little imperfection.

*UPDATE*

I got Permagloss and I feel it's better suited for this purpose. The Lumiseal did seem a little thicker to me. I still like the Lumiseal better for wraps as it seems to build up a lillte quicker but the Permagloss works better for getting that hard, shiny finish on an already smooth surface. A better brush selection helped also.

Another thing, the Permagloss fumes are quite a bit stronger. I don't feel comfortable working in my open garage without a respirator.

I would also like to thank Bill Stevens for all of his time spent on the phone with me.

Steve