My best friend is looking for a new rod and loves his Loomis SJ783 IMX blank. Does anyone have CCS data for this blank or built rod? Also, are there any other blanks that have a comparable CCS results? Feel free to email me if you do not wish to post here.
I did look on the CCS Data Site, but didn't find the blank listed.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2010 02:49PM by Wade White.

Wade, if your friend loves his SJ783-IMX he will love the SJ783-MHX also.

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Regards,

Todd

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Todd Vivian
Mud Hole Custom Tackle

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3S66MHF should put you darn close.

Scott Sheets
www.smsrods.com

Each individual blank has its own CCS guide space rating. No 2 rods are the same do to how the rod blank was constructed and by whom, there is no quality control at this point. This quality control is imposable to control. You will have to do your own CCS testing. You can start out with general general spacing and go from there. I would look into where to place the stripper guide first. Do a search on that. If you can not find it send me a email

Good Wraps Bob

That's interesting Bob, I had no idea the CCS has its own "guide space ratings." It will probably come as a surprise to Dr. Hanneman as well.

Trying to read between the lines, I think you're trying to say that the CCS numbers won't be the same even for blanks of the same model. That's not really true - they should be reasonably close just as the other specs on the same model should be close. They may not be exact, but unless the quality control was way, way off, they've be very similar.

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Seems it would be easy to get that info by CCing the blank/rod he has. It's very easy to do and takes very little on your or his part to complete the test.

Tom I agree with that, But you know as well as I do No matter what system you use there is a correction and this is just a starting point. That is like stating for every foot of rod you need to have a guide plus one. Example 8ft rod needs 8 guides plus one more that equals 9 guides. Then you stress test it and adjust and cast an readjust. This also changes on the type of guides you use. Am I right or wrong. In that case is he trying to find a line or lure wt. I must have read his post wrong . Is he trying to find a power/action rating. Are these not also subjective rating

Good Wraps Bob



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2010 07:35PM by Bob Balcombe.

First off, THANK YOU to all that have replied.

Let me give a little more background. Right now I'm located about 675 miles (I mapquested it) from the rod in question, otherwise I would have done the CCS calculations myself and then requested opinions for a similar blank. Now that being said, I know that adding guides is going to make the CCS figures different from that of a bare blank. But here is where I'm going to make a slight assumption based on what I know of CCS (which is enough to make me dangerous, but only to myself). I do know that adding guides will give it a slower action and decrease it's ERN (I believe) due to the added weight of the guide and other affects they have on the blank.
Soooo, I may not be able to get exactly the same numbers as that of the rod in question, but I should be able to come pretty close. Thus the post for assistance.

I hope I didn't open up too big a can of worms.........If I did, let's go FISHING and it'll be all good!!!

No, the action does not change due to the addition of guides. The speed (response and recovery) will change, but not the action. The blank will still initially flex at the same point. The ERN will change by a tiny amount assuming we're not talking about adding very large or very heavy guides.

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I knew I should have re-read that article before I said anything. Thanks for the clarrification, because that does make sense. Shortening or lengthening is what will change the action of a rod. (I'm still new at this.)

Were are you Northern CA, Idaho or any where West of the Great Divide? If so Come to Lamiglas in April. You well meet rod builders from all over I believe there are even going to be a couple from FL. and Texas. There my even be a discussion on CCS

Good Wraps Bob

Wade,

You're on the right track now. Pretty good for a beginner I'd say.

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