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Does anyone have information
Posted by:
Robert Balcombe
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Date: June 24, 2009 10:47PM
Does anyone have info on Carbon Helix Core technology or is this just hype talk about hoop strength?
Good Wraps Bob Good Wraps Bob Re: Does anyone have information
Posted by:
Herb Ladenheim
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Date: June 24, 2009 11:19PM
Bob,
Contact Stephen Pratt of CTS in New Zealand and/or Terry Johnson of TL Johnson Fly Rods in Colorado. Both build rods/blanks with that technology. I have built rods from both companies with Helix core and, in my opinion, the blanks are much improved versus their former premium blanks. Herb Re: Does anyone have information
Posted by:
Denis Brown
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Date: June 25, 2009 05:20AM
Hoop strength is no hype
Its a critical design criteria in a rod blank. a blank needs adequate hoop strength to resist excessive flattening & loss of strength as the rod flexes. achieving adequate hoop strength in lightweight thin wall blanks is what its about. CTS make some very nice blanks Re: Does anyone have information
Posted by:
Robert Balcombe
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Date: June 25, 2009 11:18AM
Dennis I understand hoop strength. I was wondering about the Carbon Helix Core technology Good Wraps Bob Re: Does anyone have information
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: June 25, 2009 11:21AM
It does away with the more common glass scrim and supposedly provides equal or better strength to angled carbon scrim. It is a little more labor intensive but proponents say it's worth the additional cost.
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Posted by:
Robert Balcombe
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Date: June 25, 2009 01:31PM
I did some research , this is an old process used by USA rods, they sold the rites to a company in NZ. The idea is great, vary labor intense. I does give you better hoop strength, It is not laid out in a straight axises. So it eliminates scrim. But the down side is, you have to add more material to get lineal strength. If I am wrong please correct me. This information was given to me over the phone by a well known rod designer. So I may have misinterpreted some of the info Good Wraps Bob Re: Does anyone have information
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: June 25, 2009 02:29PM
The helix core is not intended to offer linear strength. Linear fibers are still used for that purpose.
The blanks offered by Graphite USA over the years were indeed a little heavier than blanks of similar power from other makers, but not due to the helix core. The slight additional weight was due to the small-diameter/thick-wall design that Dick Kantner chose for nearly all his blank models. This is also why they had a reputation for greater durability than graphite blanks from other manufacturers. .............. Re: Does anyone have information
Posted by:
Mike Barkley
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Date: June 25, 2009 02:56PM
Bob,
Here is a very good post dealing with the Helix process [rodbuilding.org] Mike (Southgate, MI) If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!! Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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