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tips for light lure long cast set up
Posted by:
Peter Pfotenhauer
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Date: June 18, 2009 06:24PM
Need suggestions
I want a rod for tossing small lightweight soft plastics, usually nose hooked 3-4 inch worms long distances so they can slowly settle to the bottom for a let it sit presentation for big smallmouth. Some baits may be floating, but most not: Jack's worms, 3 inch Magic Sticks, Beaver style baits. Although baits will be small, target fish are the biggest smallies in the river: 20+ inch fish that can bulldog and pull out arms. Will be using braided line for casting distance, though with this style of fishing bite detection is more about line watching than sensitivity, but feeling a strike isn't a bad thing, just not the primary function of the set up. Any blank recommendations? Guides? Figure a long spinning rod, probably with a 2500 or maybe a 3000 series reel to help with casting distance. I got a couple ideas for components but wanna see how my thinking compares with better builders on here to test my thinking. Suggest away. Re: tips for light lure long cast set up
Posted by:
Duane Richards
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Date: June 18, 2009 06:26PM
9000-9001 Hot Shot blank Re: tips for light lure long cast set up
Posted by:
Jaime Choy
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Date: June 18, 2009 07:02PM
#6-#8 mono or fluoro top shot? Re: tips for light lure long cast set up
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: June 18, 2009 07:52PM
I agree with the 9000 or equivalent hot shot blank. A nice 7'6" blank with a fast light tip is the ticket.
Make sure you size your guides for 0 resistance. i.e. insure that your line is not going to be fouled by the guides and their size. For reels, I have gone to the very large spool type reels made by either US reel or Bass Pro. These are light, very large spools, with compact cases which give a very very long casting distance. Larger spools mean fewer line revolutions per length of line. These reels also have a 31 inch per turn for retrieving the line. This helps to quickly retrieve the line when you are past the productive fishing spot. Make the handle length such that the rod is balanced and comfortable for long casting periods. Take care Roger Re: tips for light lure long cast set up
Posted by:
Jaime Choy
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Date: June 18, 2009 09:13PM
I catch large mouth bass with braid and light top shot mono (6#-8#) 100% of the time. I am a light tackle nut. Hahaha! . I have found that a fast/extra fast blank tends to snap the mono on the hook set if you are not careful. I use a medium light trout rod instead. The slow taper will be much more forgiving. I use a Daiwa SS 1300 for the casting distance and smooth drag. JMHO. Re: tips for light lure long cast set up
Posted by:
Ted Morgan
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Date: June 19, 2009 08:14AM
What pound braided line will you be using, and will you be running a topshot or leader? Re: tips for light lure long cast set up
Posted by:
Denis Brown
(121.213.212.---)
Date: June 19, 2009 08:43AM
Agree with the 9000 - 9001 hotshot blank
a bit of extra distance can be achieved with an 8'6" or 9' Salmon steelhead blank or extending a 9000HS blank ( double handed ) ( if thats not too long for the water you are fishing ) Re: tips for light lure long cast set up
Posted by:
Terry Turner
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Date: June 19, 2009 08:54AM
Steelhead and salmon anglers in the NW have been using side drifting as a very effective technique. This method has been on the increase over the last 5-10 years becasue it is so effective. It requires casting very small baits such as a fingernail size glob of eggs and a split shot.
The best rods to use for this are long spinning rods, 9 1/2 to 10 1/2' usually rated in 4-8 lb line. The long flexible tip loads easily with the small bait and also provides enough backbone to land an angry steelhead. I know the original question was around bass fishing but I would think with a small light bait, you would want a slower tip that loads more easily than a hot shot rod. While either would work, I think you would get better casting performance with the trout rod as Jaime mentions than with the hot shot rod. The hot shot rod would be better for hook sets and fishing in cover. Light line fishing is always challenging and part of what makes it fun to match the blank to an angler's method. Good luck! Terry Re: tips for light lure long cast set up
Posted by:
Jaime Choy
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Date: June 19, 2009 11:36AM
When using braid as a main line there is no need to do a Bill Dance kind of hook set. What I do is reel in slowly until the rod tip loads up then lift the rod up firmly. That is enough to penetrate the tough bone plates (Using thin wire hooks) at the top of the jaw. And this is with the trout rods that I use.
When you are finessing for bass it is very likely that it will be on light line and fluorocarbon leaders. This is what I do all the time and I have taught many people to do the same. One common mistake is to set the hook too hard. Newbees will lose many a hook set by doing so. With the braid there is no need to have a super sensitive rod either. Vibrations will transmit adequately with a Walmart trout rod. When you have a quality blank you can feel the fish licking your bait so there is really no need to go to the very high end rod. Re: tips for light lure long cast set up
Posted by:
Peter Pfotenhauer
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Date: June 20, 2009 01:33PM
I plan to use 15/4 or 20/6 braided line with an 8lb mono or flouro leader. I think I'll skip micro guides and stick with size 6 running guides to be sure the uni uni knot for the leaders always clear the guides.
I have a Batson RX7 822.5 blank in hand I think I could use. The hot shot blanks are not ones I am familiar with. Any more info? They may be too long for my use from a yak though. Anyone have specific 7'6" blanks they can recommend? Thanks for the suggestions so far. Re: tips for light lure long cast set up
Posted by:
Duane Richards
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Date: June 20, 2009 03:26PM
HS9000 or HS9001 Pete, those are Batson blanks and are 7'6"
DR Re: tips for light lure long cast set up
Posted by:
Denis Brown
(121.213.212.---)
Date: June 20, 2009 07:33PM
Pete
you could have told us at the start you were intending use from a yak That application has obvious limitations in rod length. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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