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starting a wrap
Posted by: Walt Lukowski (151.145.238.---)
Date: May 27, 2009 12:59AM

I was ok wraping with the thread comming up from underneath, now iI have a renzetti wraper from the top and i am having an big problem starting the wrap. I watched Tom at the show and I still did not get it. Is there any pictures of how to start or an artical?

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Re: starting a wrap
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 27, 2009 01:40AM

Try using a large diameter blank or PVC tube to practice. IF oyu're usin a small diameter blank it might be tough to learn on.

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Re: starting a wrap
Posted by: billy broderick (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: May 27, 2009 05:15AM

When I teach I always get my students to do two turns before the crossover. Renzetti is the best product on the market walt but one criticsm I had of them is there really is very little in the way of direction. Best advice though is HANG IN THERE WHEN YOU GET FRUSTRATED TAKE A BRAKE. after awhile you will get the nack and wonder how you ever did it "upside down". Also try moving that arm as high as it will go and start with tight thread tension. I helps to lock it down tighter on the begining wrap. If you live anywhere near sw f;orida I would give you a one on one in my shop.

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Re: starting a wrap
Posted by: Walt Lukowski (151.145.238.---)
Date: May 27, 2009 05:17AM

Good advice, Thank you all
walt

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Re: starting a wrap
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: May 27, 2009 07:47AM

The photos in the book I did for Amato were taken with the thread coming over the top and from behind. If you have it, refresh your memory from there.

I think once you get a couple started you'll have it down for good.

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Re: starting a wrap
Posted by: Gabe Neal (---.dot.gov)
Date: May 27, 2009 09:29AM

Walt I use a Renzetti and what works best for me is a two hand method.

1. Bring the thread over the top and around back to you,
2. Pull the thread taught, this should bring the spring arm up to the mid point or so,
3. Work the thread to your starting point making sure it is in a straight line around the rod,
4. With one hand holding the thread tag end use the other hand to grab the thread above the rod and lay it over the thread on top of the rod. At this point the “Key” is to place your thumb on top of this overlap.
5. As you “lightly” press the peddle (a crawl!!), allow the rod to start moving with your thumb still in place, the rod will roll under your thumb keeping tension on top of the thread.
6. Once you make a full revolution and have two over wraps you remove your thumb and keep wrapping.

I hope this helps. As you get more experienced you will come up with your own way.

Gabe



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/27/2009 09:30AM by Gabe Neal.

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Re: starting a wrap
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: May 27, 2009 09:58AM

Walt,
Whenever starting a wrap, I simply take a short piece of tape to hold the tag end of the thread to the blank.
This leaves both your hands free to work with the thread or whatever else.
After getting about 4 or 5 wraps over the thread, I grab the tag end and continue to wrap, to bring the wraps down to the starting point of the guide wraps. Then, I trim the tag end and proceed with the guide wrap.
Very quick and simple.

I used to try to hold onto the tag end with a finger, but found it was so much easier to tape down the tag end before starting, that I have continued that way and never looked back.

I just use 1/4 inch masking tape to attach the tag ends. I just snip off a bunch of short lengths and attach them to the bench to have them on hand as I work down the rod.
It is fine for folks that don't use tape to hold the tag end, but what every works for each person is fine.

Take care
Roger

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