Hello tony, its scotty in montana, would like some more adivce please, I built a pair of RDR10Hs spiral wraped for dipsys they are working great thanks, but now I need to build some wire line rods going to use SN guides with @#$%& spiral top, out here the guys put on a 6oz banana wieght and run them straight out the back behind the riggers, they are fishing for lakers anywhere from 160 to 200ft down with about 600ft of wire out, I went back and read most of your past post, I also dont think the RDR10H is what I want for this rod, I dont want to use a rod that long, somewhere around a 8ft rod should work fine, any sugestions would be appericated, thanks scotty.