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Trilobal polyester
Posted by: Barton Barry (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: September 14, 2008 06:57PM

Anyone have any experience with Coats and Clarke Trilobal polyester? I tried it, Used 2 good coats of CP and it still got dark on me. It was lime green,canery yellow and tangerine over a black underwrap...It came out darker,slightly translucent(not bad) and somewhat splotchy...Am I just using the wrong product thread wise or can this thread work?

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Re: Trilobal polyester
Posted by: Bob Balcombe (---.dyn.centurytel.net)
Date: September 14, 2008 07:11PM

It almost sounds like you did not pack the threads tight and also did not burnish the threads. After I color coat I lightly re-pack and lightly burnish, (becareful packing and burnishing the thread is now soft and well move all over.
Good Wraps Bob

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Re: Trilobal polyester
Posted by: Lance Dupre (---.hsd1.la.comcast.net)
Date: September 14, 2008 07:41PM

Any time that you're going to use those light colors over a black underwrap you could put 8 coats of color preserver on it and you're wrap will still come out dark.

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Re: Trilobal polyester
Posted by: Denis Brown (---.nsw.bigpond.net.au)
Date: September 14, 2008 08:00PM

Not familiar with the particular brand but the trilobal here in OZ is not a good product for rod binding as it is made with some sort of resin in the thread to keep the thread compact & not flatten in sewing operations, which does not handle burnishing very well as it flakes in the burnishing.
DenisB

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Re: Trilobal polyester
Posted by: Mike Barkley (---.try.wideopenwest.com)
Date: September 14, 2008 08:08PM

I use trilobal often and have had no problems (I do use CP) Like has been already said, pack very tight and don't expect miracles with light over dark. Use 2 or 3 coats of CP (I think that Chromaseal from Andy Dear has the best color retention)

Mike (Southgate, MI)
If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!!

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Re: Trilobal polyester
Posted by: Steve Broadwell (---.247.31.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net)
Date: September 14, 2008 09:11PM

About all I use these days is the C&C trilobal. Been using it for several years, and never had any fisheye type problems. I think the other guys hit it - you really can't do well with light threads over dark blanks, and you have to make sure it is packed tight.

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Re: Trilobal polyester
Posted by: George Forster (71.237.22.---)
Date: September 15, 2008 01:43AM

I've used the C&C Spark Gold on dark green blanks (Go Packers!), and they turned out really nice. I packed meticulously after every 4 or 5 turns, and I used 3 coats of Flex Coat CP. I did not burnish. I finished with 3 coats of Perma Gloss.
That trilobal is a 40 wt, roughly comparable to size A thread. If your underwrap is size A, you may have issues with the overwrap settling into the grooves of the underwrap, which would make it very difficult to pack tightly.

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Re: Trilobal polyester
Posted by: Bob Balcombe (---.dyn.centurytel.net)
Date: September 15, 2008 02:03AM

I eliminated my over wrap threads from going between the under wrap threads is by wrapping the over wrap in the opposite direction. I flip the rod. I have at times, have my top wrap threads come from the bottom side instead of going over the top. An other solution is to apply a thin coat of finish on to the under wrap thread, let set for 24 hours then wrap over.
Good Wraps Bob

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Re: Trilobal polyester
Posted by: Barton Barry (---.jax.bellsouth.net)
Date: September 15, 2008 01:43PM

Thanks for the tips guys. I'll try packing better. This was on a crosswrap design over a black underwrap, i really dont know why i underwrapped it, It isn't really nessecary. Thanks guys.

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Re: Trilobal polyester
Posted by: Mark Fisher (---.sa.bigpond.net.au)
Date: September 15, 2008 07:20PM

I have to disagree very strongly with you Denis. Check out the photos in my gallery and you'll see that 90% of the wraps have been done with Mettler Polysheen (trilobal polyester) and Madeira. I don't see too many problems. Do you? Why is our thread any different to anywhere else in the world?

Regards
Mark
Outback Rods

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Re: Trilobal polyester
Posted by: Bob Balcombe (---.dyn.centurytel.net)
Date: September 15, 2008 11:14PM

This may help try doing more threads at a time. I also use a dab of CP on the first cross wrap just at the junksion of the first single thread
Good Wraps Bob

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