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ferrule material question
Posted by:
C. Royce Harrelson
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Date: June 12, 2008 01:48PM
A neighbor of mine decided to make a two peice rod from a casting rod (abu garcia) using the following proceedure. After cutting the rod, he used a peice that he cut from a fiberglass telescoping fishing pole for the ferrule. He wants me to reattach the guides and wrap the ferrule. He attached it to the tip section with polyester resin (I don't percieve a problem there) to allow it to slip over the butt section.
I checked the contact area, and it's very close to 100% contact. I have flexed it rather far and heard no noises. Shook it vigorously and it felt good. My concern is that the fishing pole is what seems to me as pretty thin wall material. This is not something that I would have to warranty (just neighbor helping neighbor) however if there may be a problem with his choice of ferrule material, I would like to forewarn him. Thanks in advance for your input. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/12/2008 02:21PM by C. Royce Harrelson. Re: ferrule material question
Posted by:
William Bartlett
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Date: June 12, 2008 02:26PM
Royce,
Looks to me like he has read Ralph O'Quinns tutorial in the libray section. He has used the correct material for his ferrule. You always want to use a material with less modulas than what the actual blank is made. You want to make sure you wrap the ferrule as close to the edge as you can, and extend it at least twice the diameter of the blank at that point. This is to help strengthen and guard against any splits. Other than that it sounds like a sound adaptation. Bill in WV Re: ferrule material question
Posted by:
C. Royce Harrelson
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Date: June 12, 2008 02:39PM
Hi Bill, thanks for the input. No he did not read anything, just tried to simulate the ferrule on an ugly stick. I would not have had any concern it he had used a rod for the material. I was just a little afraid that the fishing pole may have been too thin. Re: ferrule material question
Posted by:
Anonymous User
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Date: June 12, 2008 03:31PM
You want to use a lower modulus material only if you're using an oversleeve - this offsets the increase in stiffness that the larger diameter would otherwise create.
What type of ferrule are we talking about here - oversleeve or spigot? ................... Re: ferrule material question
Posted by:
C. Royce Harrelson
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Date: June 12, 2008 04:55PM
This would basically be an oversleeve. He cut a peice and adhered the small end of the taper to the tip section of his rod, and slides the large end of it over the the butt section to assemble the rod. It is basically a tip over butt ferrule, except that an additional peice was attached to the tip section in order to make it such. As mentioned, if he had use a peice of rod blank, I would not have had a concern, but the bream pole (I think that is what they are called) just seemed awfully thin. Maybe i'm worried over nothing. Re: ferrule material question
Posted by:
Anonymous User
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Date: June 12, 2008 05:17PM
He went about it the right way. The ferrule need not be super strong - in fact, if it's much stronger or stiffer than the blank you'll most likely have a failure. You want something that will flex at about the same rate as the blank.
Without seeing it I can't tell you what to expect but unless that's a very heavy power casting rod you may very well be perfectly fine. .......... Re: ferrule material question
Posted by:
William Bartlett
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Date: June 12, 2008 09:44PM
I've done it a few times repairing broken rods to give to kids, and they hold up just fine. Like I said before, just to be safe wrap the ferrule. Twice the diameter of the blank at that point would be good, unless you want a longer one for aesthetic purposes. Bill in WV Re: ferrule material question
Posted by:
C. Royce Harrelson
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Date: June 12, 2008 11:27PM
Thanks guys, I guess I was being overly cautious, Tom, it's not a heavy rod, lure rating is 1/4 to 3/4 oz.
Again, thanks. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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