A co-worker brought a rod in for me to put new guides on . He wants me to use garnet thread with gold narrow trim bands.
At the butt end he wants me to marble with matching colors.

Ok the Rod is gloss black. So just put a coat of clear epoxy first and then add testors Red M.F Rouge Met.
and then the gold that being the matching colors???

All help appreciated thanks. <<<<DON>>>>

Donald,

I strongly suggest you try it on a scrap piece first if you have one.

Depending on the look your after you could marble some red into
some clear on the rod or mix the pigment into the clear finish
(making it red) and then apply it to the rod and marble some gold
into the red.

If I were trying to match the thread color (in this case garnet) I would
mix up some red and then add tiny bits of black or brown pigment until
I get the color I what and then apply it onto the rod.

Try not to go overboard with the gold. IMHO with metalic colors a little
go a long way. You can make it "POP" or make it gaudy.

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

You'd mix the finish, then separate it into 3 lots. One you leave clear, add the red to the second, and the gold to the third. Then go as you suggested: clear, then swirl in some of the red tinted epoxy, then some gold. It helps to let the epoxy thicken a little when adding finer swirls so that it doesn't meld together right away.

Great Guys thanks!Gotta go, off to Wal-mart for some testors.Wiffe thinks I'm crazy going after testors at this hour. She's right 100%. Thats what this animal does to yea !!!

See yea!! thanks again. <<<<DON>>>>

You also could underwrap the marbled area with the garnet thread therefore the color match would be perfect. Use black and gold as the marble color.

Freddwhy (Rapt-Ryte)

Donald,

I don't know about your's, but our WalMart doesn't carry Testor's paints any more. You'll probably end up getting it from a hobby store or online.

Bill in WV

Here is an article on marbling done by Mike Barkley for RodMaker several years ago. You may find it helpful.

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If you want to add in white, which will make the other colors stand out more, add a little bit of straight titanium dioxide available at most better paint stores. It will provide the most perfect and brilliant shade of white.


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There are many many shades of white. Most of them appear to be quite different in sunlight.

The starkest white on boat surfaces is one that has a "slight tinge of black" added. It is the "stark white" used on the gel coats of epoxy coated bass boats and bluewater offshore boats. Ranger, Champion and Skeeter boat dealers and all blue water dealers and repair centers keep several white gel coat pigments in stock in one oz touch up tubes. When you put this special white up against other whites in sunlight other whites will appear yellowed or "ecru" which is egg shell white. Most large boat dealers will have a supply of patch pigment kits and sell tubes of the pigment in about 12 colors for under $4. Check out the appearance of the special stark white and you will see what I am describing. This pigment appears whiter than Tapp and requires less to go opaque. If you look for some get the black and red as well!

And guess what - titanium dioxide is the filler noted on the tube!

i would go for the garnet underwrap with clear/gold marbling over the top to ensure a color match.
they have black or red respectively underwrapped with a single color (gold on the red one) marbled in, simple and effective.

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Regards,
-Justin



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/21/2008 02:47PM by justin keithley.

Thank you for all the replies. Like Bill stated last evening, after I had already left for Wal-Mart to find out they don't handle testors any more. Was also to late to go else ware. So I stopped and got my paint tonight on the way home from work. Not going to start anything now so, will work on it over the week-end.Do want to get some pigment also.

Again thanks to all <<<<DON>>>>

Donald,

I thought that I had posted last night but didn't check to see that it went through and I guess I screwed up the post. What I wanted to say is that you want pigment not paint and ,other than the metallics (gold, silver, etc NOT the metallic colors), which you can let sit and pour off the solvent to get the thick pigment, many of the Testor's paints are too thin to be of much use. A great source is to take some small containers (Medicine bottles,etc.) and ask for some of the pigments that they use to mix paint. They will usually be glad to give or sell you a small amount..

Everyone has their own method, but what I would do is mix up a batch of finish and pour out a portion on foil and leave most in the mixing cup. With toothpicks, add red and a tad black pigment to the cup until you get the garnet shade that you want. Leave set for 10/15 minutes and apply as a base coat to the blank area that you want to marble. Let it turn for another 10/15 min and add the gold pigment into the finish on the foil (You can also add a LITTLE fine gold glitter dust into it). With a toothpick, swirl the gold finish into the garnet and pull it around until you get the effect that you want. By hitting it with a LITTLE heat, you can make the gold kind of diffuse into the red. Play around with it on a piece of scrap and have fun with it!!! Worst case scenario is if you don' like it, marble right over it!!!

Mike (Southgate, MI)
If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!!

Tom,
I would like to save this thread for future use. Is it possible to save it as un-read? or some way I can send it to my e-mail?

Thaks,
Bill

Ohio Rod Builders

Canton, Ohio

You should be able to just copy and paste it as a text clipping or into your word processor and save it as you would any document.

Or... just copy and paste the URL showing in the address window right now onto your desktop and you can call up this thread whenever you want.

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I forgeot to add that Swifty has a new Diamondite pigment set that I recently started using and it's VERY good (can be used with any brand finish!!) I hear they are coming out with a set of metallic pigments soon.

Mike (Southgate, MI)
If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!!