I've spent hours on this form reading about tinting permagloss trying to find the answer to this question with no luck (My search's were probably wrong).

How much is too much tint for the permagloss to carry?

I'm building a rod for my wife who "just would love" a purple rod. She has pick out a color chip that is the color she wants and I have the information on the tints used to make that color - using a "deep tint base" paint with the smallest size being a quart.

Here's my delema: I can mix the tints to get the color but how much of the tint can I use for it to be both opaque and not overload the 1oz, permagloss to where there is too much tint for it to desolve.

Is this something I need to worry about. I'm going to be using a black blank to turn pruple - dark purple not lavender.

Any one know the maximum amout of tint for a 1 ounce jar?

Won't happen with Perma Gloss - blank will require proper prep and painting -

Once painted what protects the paint from comming off through use?

The more tint or pigment you apply, the more you may change the properties of the PermaGloss product. I can't give you an exact figure here - you'd just have to add enough to get the job done and then test it on a scrap piece and see how it sets up and dries. It does tend to take a good deal to make it truly opaque.

PermaGloss is terribly hard - you aren't likely to wear it off through normal wear and tear. Heck you can't hardly sand it off.

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I refinished a carbon fiber pushpole with PermaGloss. I put enough pigment in to turn a light gray pole into midnight black with just two coats. I can't tell you scientifically how much tint I added, but it was plenty - and the PG still did the job A+. Hard as concrete and black as night with ONE 4oz bottle of PermaGloss and a generous helping of black tint from Lowe's. The pole was a 20' one at that!

Sounds like you are trying to paint and finish with Permagloss. I found the TAP plastic pigments to be quite powerful in making Permaglass opaque. They are made for coloring epoxy and casting resin. Sounds like you are using paint pigments tho, and if you have had to ask how much is too much, then a significant amount at that. I'd be wary that you are degrading the Permagloss quickly when using pigments not designed to color such things.
TAP plastics says to use 6-8% of their pigment, which is designed to color plastics. [www.tapplastics.com]; . If using anything not designed for the task, you'd certainly think less %.
I've had good luck in tinting Permagloss to make it opaque and refinish a scuffed up rod, using the TAP pigments. I woulodn't go that path for changing the color of a rod tho. Tinting is on thing, painting another.

Darby,

Try this on a scrap piece of black blank. Prep the scrap for painting, by using a scotchbrite pad. Paint with the color you want. Then spray with Krylon fixatiff or crystal clear. Then try to coat with permagloss. If the permagloss doesn't eat the paint off, then you are set. OR tint the permagloss and see how it does just by prepping the scrap then using the Krylon without painting then try the permagloss. This should get you the answer to your dilemma.

Bill in WV

Darby -

Just so you know ... Lamiglas does offer colored blanks. I believe the charge is $10 extra and you have to wait until they run that color. Also, GUSA offers custom colors, there is a $15 surcharge and purple IS one of the available colors - I just checked the MudHole site. I just wanted to make sure you are aware of the alternatives. I made my wife happy with a "purple rod" via a white blank and purple wraps/crosswraps - another possible angle of attack.

Jim -




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/04/2007 02:34PM by Jim Gamble.

Darby - JP Timberlake is supposed to give a seminar on how to change the color of blank at the show in February. That is if I remember correctly.