There has been quite a lot of interest in the Throop/Colby tiger/holo
wrapping technique and a few questions as to how this could be
applied to a guide wrap so I decided to try a 100% tigerized guide
wrap. Not just an underwrap. I wanted to see if the overwraps could
be done as well and just how it would work combined with the underwrap
on a double footed guide.

At first, I thought to myself that Scott & Bill has probably already tried this
so I searched for pix and any comments that might have been posted
and came up empty. "Bummer" I thought, because if it could be done, surely
they would have done it! Figured that maybe there was an unknown
reason why this wouldn't work but it didn't make sence as to why it wouldn't
so I gave it a shot.

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Here are the steps I took to complete the wrap.

1) did the underwrap (bottom of the tiger) with yellow & black by starting in the center and wrapping out to each side . (2 directions) and coated with finish.

2) did 2 short wraps of yellow & black (top tiger layer) in the center of the bottom layer
for the space between the guide feet wrapping from the OUTSIDE in from each side and removed the yellow thread, coated with finish. (2 directions meeting in the center)

3) Wrapped on the guide with yellow & black together wrapping up the foot on each side as normal ( again opposite directions of the lower wraps) and removed the yellow thread then coated the entire wrap again with finish.

I know this could be done with fewer steps & direction changes though.
I was concerned about how all these seperate wrap sections would look
at the areas where they meet and if the tiger/holo moire effect would be
effected. The effect was seamless even though I was not paying close attention
to perfection and the experiment wrap turned out pretty good!

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

i was going to try that but couldnt figure out a way to do one of the feet in the opposite direction.....looks like you fixed that..YAY!

definately looks great!

Looks great!

On a different subject - My name is Rick and I am brand new to rod building (vetran to fishing). Seen the post yesterday regarding mentors and noticed you were in Sacramento. I live in San Jose and did not see anyone listed in the directory in my area. Any interest in sharing/mentoring a NEW B and showing him some of the tricks of the trade? I'll do all the driving of course and do not mind coming up your way because my daughter lives up there.

If not, no hard feeling either.

Thank you - Rick

Cool Raymond,,,, and it looks painful too :-)
I sorta wondered the same. but to completely do the top as a paired thread wrap from end to end and then take out one. Feet will show of course, so they'd best look good.. You'd have 1/2 the wrap holding onto the feet which comes back to the "is it strong enough" discussions. And it would be a bit painful for the section between the feet. But you'd think it a more linear look too.

Wonder who is going to do the first full blank tiger? One interesting thing about that is that it would be a very interesting way to gauge stress distribution on the blank. Afterall, moire patterns are used for stress measurement.

on heavy boat rods it would work well as you can double wrap the feet so the first is the bottom then the second wrap would be the top

Rick,
Your welcome anytime I would love to have you! Email me and I'll give you more contact info.

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

Dave Hauser Wrote:
. Feet will show of course,
> so they'd best look good.. You'd have 1/2 the wrap
> holding onto the feet which comes back to the "is
> it strong enough" discussions. And it would be a
> bit painful for the section between the feet. But
> you'd think it a more linear look too.

Yea Dave, my concerns as well. Thats why I chose a black framed guide and black thread.
I also didn't prep the feet. If one should try another color and prep the feet it would be best
to paint the feet after the prep.

if one is concerned about the strength issue a few good coats of Permagloss before a final
coat of epoxy would help there.

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> I sorta wondered the same. but to completely do
> the top as a paired thread wrap from end to end
> and then take out one

To do that on a double foot guide you would have cross from one side to the other
and wrap one side down & not up.




Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

Exactly. Nice in a way, and ot so handy in another. At least while the one foot is loose you could go under it to wrap the middle.

Rick,,, after you get all the mentoring stuff in, you can show me the error of my ways. I'm in San Jose too. :-)

Dave - no problem, but surely you are way ahead of me since I have not even started my first rod yet. Maybe I could learn from you too?

You'll end up meandering looking over my shoulder. I'm prety convinced I look for the hard way to do things :-)