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Do you rough up the blank before applying epoxy?
Posted by:
Bill Giokas
(---.bfd-dynamic.gis.net)
Date: March 07, 2007 06:05PM
The directions to Devcon 2 ton epoxy says to roughen up the surface before applying. In the past I have not but I wonder if a light sanding of the blank might help with the adhesion of the epoxy. Thank Bill Re: Do you rough up the blank before applying epoxy?
Posted by:
Michael Sledden
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Date: March 07, 2007 06:13PM
Look in the library under surface prep and you will get all your answers. Re: Do you rough up the blank before applying epoxy?
Posted by:
Patrick Vernacchio
(---.telalaska.com)
Date: March 07, 2007 06:25PM
Bill, I have not experienced any handle failures. I avoid conducting any surface prep except for a thorough wiping of a soft cloth dampened with alcohol. The reason I avoid any sanding is to allow me to keep my opitions open should I decide to change components. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/07/2007 07:15PM by Patrick Vernacchio. Re: Do you rough up the blank before applying epoxy?
Posted by:
Ralph D. Jones
(---.bhm.bellsouth.net)
Date: March 07, 2007 06:52PM
I break the shine of a glossy blank with ex-fine ScotchBrite and do nothing but clean a matte blank. I clean any/all blanks and only break the shine under grips & reelseats. Ralph If at first you don't succeed, go fishing, then try, try again. Re: Do you rough up the blank before applying epoxy?
Posted by:
Anonymous User
(Moderator)
Date: March 07, 2007 07:39PM
The best bond will be obtained with a water-break-free surface. All you'd want to do is a very thorough deglossing/scouring of the surface with some Scotchbrite or very fine sandpaper (600 grit or higher). Deep scratches and gouges actually weaken the bond.
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Posted by:
Chris Karp
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Date: March 08, 2007 10:17AM
The water-break-free degree of sanding is always the way to go., Am I wrong but, has technology advanced such that this process might not be as effective as it once was with the advent of STAY-PUT epoxies? The old style epoxies were much thinner and closer to the viscosity of water so it could actually be drawn by the proper prep of the mating surfaces..whereas now with them being so thick they produce there own breaks as it were? Re: Do you rough up the blank before applying epoxy?
Posted by:
Anonymous User
(Moderator)
Date: March 08, 2007 12:18PM
Not really, the water break free test simply indicates a good surface condition for any epoxy. Granted, some "wet" the surface better than others, but in terms of what we do with fishing rods, most all adhesive specific epoxies will bond more than good enough for our purposes if the surface exhibits a WBF condition.
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Posted by:
Chris Karp
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Date: March 09, 2007 02:03PM
Yes on a prepared WBF mating surfaces where adhesive is applied, my point is the creep to get to other surfaces that might have been inadvertantly missed. I like the notion of the adhesive being aided to self penetrating/spreading drawing to these possible missed locations, aided by the chemical reaction which produces heat and expansion, inhanced by a surface that urges its spreading via an adhesive whose viscosity can more easily spead, might be equally favored to that of one that stays put. No one can debate the fact that these adhesives work where appled to properly preped surfaces, traveling to where they are not is suggestion here. Dark side, it might spread to where you don't want it. Re: Do you rough up the blank before applying epoxy?
Posted by:
Anonymous User
(Moderator)
Date: March 09, 2007 04:15PM
If the surface hasn't been deglossed, it won't likely adhere very well.
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Posted by:
Chris Karp
(---.netpenny.net)
Date: March 10, 2007 02:19AM
yes a deglossed surface, a given I stipulated too in a previous post. Considering that and concentrating on the difference between the new stay-put thick epoxy, and the old thinner drippy epoxy and how the thin epoxy's has an ability to migrate over this prepared surface (to areas that haven't been coated) while the thick stuff will not? Has not the new thick epoxy negated the ability for the epoxy to self spread over this prepared surface to an area possibly missed in the adhesive application process? While the thin epoxy is able to be drawn by this prepard surface to areas possibly ommited? Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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