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First Time With Permagloss
Posted by: Jeff Leonard (---.mc.net)
Date: March 02, 2007 12:42PM

This is my first experience with permagloss and I think I could use some pointers. I am attempting to recondition some fiberglass flag poles at my golf course and thought it can't be much different than working with fishing rods but my results so far are not what I had expected. Here are the steps I have taken:

1. Clean poles with TSP
2. Give a good scotchbrite treatment
3. Paint with Krylon spray paint (12 min dry) let dry for an hour.
4. Apply permagloss with natural bristle brush

Now when I apply the permagloss it seems to be a little tough to drag and have to work it more than I thought. Is this normal? The finish seems to be a little rougher than I like. Is there a certain temp that the permagloss should be at to apply? It just seems that as thin a consistency that permagloss is it should be flowing easier. Could it be the paint reacting with it?
Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Jeff Leonard
I'd rather be fishing

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Re: First Time With Permagloss
Posted by: Jay Lancaster (---.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)
Date: March 02, 2007 12:52PM

How big is this flag pole?

You MUST apply Permagloss VERY quickly. Once you run your brush over a spot you're not going to want to touch that spot again. These thin coats begin to cure almost immediately. You can make a mess if you try to brush back over it just a few seconds after your initial application.

If you're making a mess, the best think I can recommend is allowing it a couple days to cure and sand it back smooth. Repaint and start again. You will want to allow your paint a few days to fully dry/cure before attempting to apply Permagloss. Then when you do be sure to fully load your brush and make a single pass. Don't mess around and get the stuff on there w/o playing with it. You can leave the PG in a container (please don't use plastic) and recoat out of the same container later. You can also let the PG sit in the container for a while (an hour or more) before making your initial application.

I'm sure you'll get some better advise than I can give you.

Jay

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Re: First Time With Permagloss
Posted by: Jeff Leonard (---.mc.net)
Date: March 02, 2007 01:05PM

Jay,

You have brought up 2 points I have errored on. The poles are 8' so there is quite a bit of area to cover. I guess I should changing my application technique and spin the pole quickly rather than trying to make long strokes on a slow rotation. I have been using plastic mixing cups. My Bad

Thanks
Jeff Leonard
It's snowing like all *@ll here

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Re: First Time With Permagloss
Posted by: Jay Lancaster (---.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)
Date: March 02, 2007 02:14PM

The only reason I mentioned to not use plastic is because PG will eat through many plastic containers. I once used a small 2oz plastic cup for my PG. Within a few minutes I started getting a small pool of PG on the bench...I though I had spilled some until I picked up the cup. It was then that I saw the plastic literally melting away. That was an important first lesson.

Best of luck.

Jay

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Re: First Time With Permagloss
Posted by: Bill Stevens (---.br.br.cox.net)
Date: March 02, 2007 02:26PM

For golf course pins I would think Krylon Spray Primer Coat - Color Coat - and Krylon Clear would be more than adequate. Perma Gloss sounds like over kill to me. If the underlying Krylon is not fully cured the Perma Gloss will tend to dissolve it making quite a mess. If you are intent on using the Perma Gloss wear a chemical glove - soak a soft poly foam pad in Permagloss - make one pass with quick constant pressure down the pole while in the vertical position - do not mess with trying to apply it to that kind of surface with a brush.

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Re: First Time With Permagloss
Posted by: Jeff Leonard (---.mc.net)
Date: March 02, 2007 03:21PM

Bill,

Thanks for your input. I realize that permagloss seems like overkill for a flag pole but I can hardly get more than one season out of these before they look like crap. The gel coat, or whatever they use gets marked up and looses color. Your application technique sounds like the ticket should I continue with this.

Jeff Leonard
Still Snowing

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Re: First Time With Permagloss
Posted by: stan mclean (---.hsd1.nh.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2007 05:54PM

Something that may hold up better than the kylon clear coat, Helmsman spar varnish. They make it in spray cans and you then could put mulitple coats on, it should be much tougher than other spray clears. Although not as tough as permagloss it 's would be easier to apply.

Let us know how you make out. Good luck.

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