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Permagloss over Threadmaster or vice versa?
Posted by: sanford hochman (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: December 10, 2006 01:04PM

Fellas,
Can anyone tell me which goes over which safely. First apply Threadmaster, then a coat of permagloss or permagloss first, then the Threadmaster finish? I forgot. Also is Permagloss used to coat the blank itself rather than finish? Thanks,
Sanford Hochman

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Re: Permagloss over Threadmaster or vice versa?
Posted by: Andy Dear (---.sub-70-196-65.myvzw.com)
Date: December 10, 2006 01:23PM

Permagloss first, definately. It will look terrible the other way around. PG has sort of an eggshell finish and doesn't carry nearly the depth of image that TM or other polymer finishes do. I tried it on a coupleof flyrods years ago,and hated the way it looked, in spite of it's awesome performance characteristics.

Just out of curiosity, why are you using 2 different finishes?


Andy Dear
Lamar Fishing

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Re: Permagloss over Threadmaster or vice versa?
Posted by: sanford hochman (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: December 10, 2006 01:38PM

Andy,
I really want to coat the balance of the rod between the finished guides, and thought Permagloss would work for that purpose. I understood regular finished like yours is not used for that purpose, or would it work to coat the rest of the rod along with the guides with Threadmaster. It is a 6'6" rod for tuna, and the space between guides is not great. Thanks,
Sanford

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Re: Permagloss over Threadmaster or vice versa?
Posted by: Michael Blomme (---.255.45.165.Dial1.Seattle1.Level3.net)
Date: December 10, 2006 01:44PM

Good Mornng Sanford,

Why do you want to coat your entire rod? If it is an old rod that you are renovating and has many blemishes and gouges, you might want to do that, but on a new blank all coating the rod blank does is add excess weight--particularly to the tip section, where it will slow the action of your rod.

Mike Blomme

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Re: Permagloss over Threadmaster or vice versa?
Posted by: Andy Dear (---.sub-70-196-65.myvzw.com)
Date: December 10, 2006 01:49PM

Oh I see.... no 2 part polymers aren't really designed for that. If it were me, I'd first re-finish the rod with PG. Then wrap and finish with TM. If the rod is new like Mike says, just wrap and finish with TM and leave the factory applied finish on the rod the way it is.

Andy

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Re: Permagloss over Threadmaster or vice versa?
Posted by: Bill Stevens (---.br.br.cox.net)
Date: December 10, 2006 01:57PM

Sanford - most of the commercial tuna sticks are finished completely thread and blank with two part epoxy finishes. Weight is not an issue nor will it have an significant impact of the blank action. The finish really protects the blank against abrasion and chipping of the original finish. I have done several stand ups all finish and it turns out nicely. The longest run of blank between underwraps is about three inches. If the blank color is white Threadmaster would be the best choice of two part epoxy.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 12/10/2006 02:57PM by Bill Stevens.

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Re: Permagloss over Threadmaster or vice versa?
Posted by: sanford hochman (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: December 10, 2006 02:33PM

Thanks fellas.
Sanford

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Re: Permagloss over Threadmaster or vice versa?
Posted by: Mick McComesky (---.244.27.50.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net)
Date: December 10, 2006 04:08PM

Just wanted to add that while I agree that several coats of permagloss over epoxy can look weird and even a bit bad, a single coat does not give the eggshell look. I routinely use a final coat of permagloss over epoxy wraps. I believe that it adds a tougher outer shell, a finish for finish, so to speak, as well as a bit of a brighter and shinier look. Had no bad things happen over epoxy using LS, Flex Coat or Threadmaster.

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