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Grip observation and thanks to TK
Posted by: Robert Hively (204.248.120.---)
Date: September 16, 2006 08:54AM

A few days ago I posted ? Why grip makers do not make the grip bores larger than .25 inch for fly rods?

TK was nice enough to give me heads up about easy method to ream the holes and observation about the process. Which was and is greatly appreciated.

FYI: I used to turn my own grips, using Andy Dear's mandrels, but had occasional problems with the ends of the lathe thingys wearing and going off center. So, I decided to buy preglued grips, say two 12-inch grips (float rods) or one 12-inch preglued grip for fly rods and sanding down. The idea ws that the center holes were larger and easy to shim. Some even fit close enough to negate shimming.

I just finished a big 8wgt and the grip was easy to do this way.

Also, the float rods sported graphite rings, to make it easy to balance and vary reels, and the preglued sections were altered to take a cork butt-cap, in case a graphite ring failed. It is way easier to pop the cap off to replace the ring and re apply a new cap than it would be using the preformed section as is.

Now, I am looking forward to the article in the soon to be published RM magazine and will go from there.

Thought the experiences would be of interest.

Hive

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Re: Grip observation and thanks to TK
Posted by: Andy Dear (---.sub-66-174-79.myvzw.com)
Date: September 16, 2006 10:40AM

Robert,
I have been using the same set of mandrels for over 5 years with no wear......are you sure there is not something wrong with your live center? The only reason the counterbore should wear would be because the lathe centers are not aligned or the cone of your center is out of whack.

Andy Dear
Lamar Fishing.

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Re: Grip observation and thanks to TK
Posted by: Robert Hively (204.248.120.---)
Date: September 16, 2006 11:48AM

Andy, Hi!

Sorry! I did not mean your mandrels were the problem, it was those live centers you mention (I called them thingys) that wore out.

"... occasional problems with the ends of the lathe thingys ..."

Your mandrels are perfect and I have made some stunning grips using them. I still have them and would not part with those beauties cause they do the trick when I am making those long grips.



Hive

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Re: Grip observation and thanks to TK
Posted by: Jesse Buky (---.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net)
Date: September 16, 2006 01:59PM

My wood lathe is a 1980 Sears with a ball bearing live center and for many years used graphite mandrels which has grooved the live center but it is still runs true. A couple of years ago I purchased a complete set of Andy's mandrels and have nothing but praise for them. I just can't picture a live center wearing out, are you sure you are not reffering to a stationary or "Dead" center. Jesse

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Re: Grip observation and thanks to TK
Posted by: Anonymous User (Moderator)
Date: September 16, 2006 02:06PM

When the article "hits" it will forever change the way rod builders ream their grip bores.

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Re: Grip observation and thanks to TK
Posted by: Andy Dear (---.sub-66-174-93.myvzw.com)
Date: September 16, 2006 03:10PM

Ahhh.....yes, I think we all have that problem....my live centers are toast after a year or two. I have since started buying the cheaper ones!


Andy Dear
Lamar Fishing Products

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Re: Grip observation and thanks to TK
Posted by: Fred Yarmolowicz (66.252.177.---)
Date: September 16, 2006 04:12PM

Tom,must you always do this to us.Bad enough when others start to rap about the magizine before others get it,now you are dropping hints?Must be a marketing ploy.Keep up the good work,suspense make it all the better.

Freddwhy (Rapt-Ryte)

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Re: Grip observation and thanks to TK
Posted by: Ron Hossack (---.61.103-200.ptr.llix.net)
Date: September 16, 2006 08:53PM

>When the article "hits" it will forever change the way rod builders ream their grip bores.

How long do I have to wait for the magazine to hit the post office? Got a few grips turned and a few blanks waiting <G>

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Re: Grip observation and thanks to TK
Posted by: Anonymous User (Moderator)
Date: September 16, 2006 09:02PM

October 28th.

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Re: Grip observation and thanks to TK
Posted by: Pete Kornegay (---.client.mchsi.com)
Date: September 16, 2006 09:27PM

Please tell me I can throw away the rat tail files forever.

Pete Kornegay

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Re: Grip observation and thanks to TK
Posted by: Anonymous User (Moderator)
Date: September 16, 2006 09:37PM

Throw them away - you'll not use them again. At least not on grips.


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Re: Grip observation and thanks to TK
Posted by: Ron Hossack (---.61.103-200.ptr.llix.net)
Date: September 16, 2006 10:06PM

Tom Kirkman Wrote:
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> October 28th.

5 weeks .... I can just stack things up <G>

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Re: Grip observation and thanks to TK
Posted by: Mark Syck (---.mgm.bellsouth.net)
Date: September 17, 2006 07:08AM

5 weeks? That is like......forever :-(

Mark Syck

SYCKO Custom Rods
There Are No Limits To The Imagination

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Re: Grip observation and thanks to TK
Posted by: Ron Hossack (---.61.103-200.ptr.llix.net)
Date: September 17, 2006 11:53AM

Tom Kirkman Wrote:
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> Throw them away - you'll not use them again. At
> least not on grips.

OK, howabout a hint ... do I need to start saving pennies for a new tool or three?

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