Hi Folks,
My Mom has gotten into embrodery in a big way I mean the full on digital machine and all. She has shopped around for threads and has come up with a company called Salus. She had a couple of the color chart gigs sent to me and this thread looks very nice. Between the Rayons and the Ameth Polyesters there is just about every color in the rainbow.
My questions would be,
Has anyone used Salus threads?
How about the Rayon, can it be used or will that lead to problems with coatings, or is the stuff just too weak to wrap with?
The only issues I might see with Salus thread is the lack of thread sizes. From what I see here they do what they call a 40 and 35?

Any info would be real sweet!




Tight wraps and lines,
Wylie

Wylie,

You want to stay away from Rayon. Lot of fuzzies and it stretches. The 40 poly would probably be OK, just make sure you use CP as it could be coated with silicone to facilitate running smoothly through machines.

Bill in WV

Wylie; I would stick with the polyesters. Try them on a test stick and see what you get. Tensil strength should be enough so you don't break threads when you want to tighten a weave and I would try their metallic thread too and see what does. But test it all before you put a lot of time in on a project only to find out you can't use the stuff.

Thanks Guys,
Mom has sent me some samples and I have taken a strong magnifying glass to them and the pallets that came from the manufacturer. With both the rayon and the poly I can see no fuzzies at all, colors are vibrant and from what the manufacturer states the poly will stand up to industrial cleaning and direct sunlight if used on stuff like company uniforms. Referring to the samples Mom sent to me and them being the poly or the rayon I am not sure but she may remember. These samples are intended to be for tests and William your thought of the silicone could very well stand to be true as these threads are supposed to flow through machines fast and smoothly.
Looks like I better be throwing some of this stuff on some test sticks and hope for sunny days soon.

Thanks again guys and I'll try to get some pictures posted of the results. The pricing is very favorable although like I mentioned sizes are not what I would like to see. There are 240 colors 11 of which are flourescents in the poly and 14 metallics to choose from. The manufacturer says the metallics are 110 denier nylon core wrapped with polyester film which is pasted on the inside with rice paper and metalized with pure silver. The metallics come in 1/2 and 1/4 pound spools and the polys in what they call a king spool?





Tight wraps and lines,
Wylie

Wylie, you said it came in size 40. That is what Madeira thread is and it is VERY popular with builders and plenty strong enough. Their Polyneon comes in 360 colors and also is VERY reasonable. I would think that any of the Polyester sewing threads of that size would be fine but I would definately use CP as most sewing threads are coated for machine use.

Mike (Southgate, MI)
If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!!

For our Information (FOI)
The numbers used are deniers
Definition of denier:
Unit used in measuring the fineness of yarns, equal to the mass in grams of 9,000 metres of yarn. Thus 9,000 metres of 15 denier nylon, used in nylon stockings, weighs 15 g/0.5 oz, and in this case the thickness of thread would be 0.00425 mm/0.0017 in. The term is derived from the French silk industry; the denier was an old French silver coin.

It took me a while to translate between A, D , etc and the denier

Jim,

Are you sure you're not really Cliff Hall incognito?????LOL Thanks for the info. Interesting

Mike (Southgate, MI)
If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!!

Just an reminder...those samples may have been coated as previously mentioned. That MAY be part of the reason you saw no fuzzies. Don't forget,even burnishing wraps can cause those buggars even with quality tools.
Best wishes Wylie,
Chuck

Trust me and all the other experienced rodbuilders on here when we say stay away from Rayon. do a search of all the posts and you'll see why.

Bill in WV

Thanks guys,
I have already sent the email off to Mom to see if she may remember if the samples she sent were the rayons or polys. She spooled these on bobbins from larger spools she bought so this is the actual product and not the samplers sent by the manufacturer.
In the seven or eight years I have been building fishing rods I have never really veried from the Gudbrod line for the most part because of issues I learned early on with stick ups, fish eyes and the likes.
Well, the denier math isn't dealing with phase angle or some freaky non-linial arc so I figure I'm good with it. :)



Tight wraps and lines,
Wylie

I have played around using sulky rayon for some decoration and it does wrap ok but the light colors are very weak. I won't use it any longer, nothing like packing the other threads and have one of them pop :-( not a real good feeling. I did find a shop fairly close by the has Mettler Polyester and so far that works really good.

Thanks Scott,
I still have yet to test this Salus thread. I've been getting the file cabinet business ready and today it's the first monthly business filing for me here in Idaho. Too many priorties these days but I may have a window for testing this next week. I do have my figures crossed this Salus flies as I have a birthday gift to build with some thread and handle stuff I have never done before.



Tight wraps and lines,
Wylie