Are these threads the ones that you buy in the local haberdashery shop (needlework "embroidery threads") or are the specialist like gudebrod
Be gentle with the replies remember im in the uk lol
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allen

Haberdashery shop will do fine.

Just make sure that it is the PolyNeon or metallic and not rayon

Mike

Are there any particuular types i should look for as maderia seem to make loads ???? HELPPPPPPPPPPPP im goin crazy
its got to be nylon or rayon (am i right ?????)
classic 30 classic 40 classic 60 or decor or am i on the wrong lines here

Allen,
You want to get the Polyneon polyester thread 40 wt. We are all gentle souls here. Sulky is another similar quality thread, especially like their metallics.

When purcgasing threads from a sewing shop make sure the thread you buy ( is not for sewing machines) Sewibg machine thread has a coating on them. Also do not buy Rayon thread!! Rayon thread weill fuzz up on you when you put a finish on it
Good Wraps Bob. I use AA Slik or Maderia for art work
Good Wraps Bob

mmmm reading through madiera 40 polyneon is a machine embroidery thread
Me is thinking along the lines that i may get wifeys sewing machine out and see how it handles FIBREGLASS
3 hours later mmmm anyone got any ideas how to use a sewing machine
Seriously though is this the right madiera thread
madiera 40wt machine embroidery thread

Madeira 40 wt Polyneon ( its says so on the spool) that would be a good choice. 351 colors, slightly smaller in diameter than Gudebrod "A" nylon. This is NOT rodbuilding thread, it's embrodeiry thread meant for high speed machines and because of the high speed, a SILICONE is added to the thread in order to prevent binding on the thread machines its meant for.

You will need to use a couple of coats of color preserver with these threads to seal the SILICONE from any finish you may applly...(every good thing these days seems to have some kind of negative attribution).

Allen,
I have used Coats and Clarke rayon thread (40 wt) for trim. I use color preserver to preserve the color as well as seal the thread. I haven't had any problems with either Perma Gloss or Epoxy finishes. Bob is probably right if color preserver is not used. I would not use rayon for guide wraps because I feel it is too weak.

Mike Blomme

I made the mistake of using Sulky Rayon a couple times and let me tell you that is not a mistake I will make again. Fuzzies are the least of the problems I had. The stuff was very weak and when you finished off any kind of a wrap it would slip out from under itself. Not gonna happen again.

Sulky metallics are the best rod building metallics I've tried, they are the only ones I use now-very nice.

I just had a conversation with Sulky and here's part of it:



"Since I've had such fantastic luck with Sulky Metallic threads, I've been chatting a little with the makers-the last email is below-and found out a little tip on using "off brand" threads for rod building:


Quote:Hi again Duane -

I had to research your last question. I wrote to the president of our manufacturing plant in Germany, Christopher Gunold, and he replied:

All sewing and embroidery threads need lubricants. The metallics though have next to none because the foil does not absorb it anyway.

So, it may be that rayons and other natural fibers may not be the best thing for your rods. It's a pity because the new Cotton Blendables would be dynamite for that use.

I think I told you that the thread charts could be purchased from either of the two catalog sources that I mentioned. However, if you have not already ordered them let me know. I would be happy to send you a set.

Sincerely,

Patti Lee
Vice President
Consumer Relations
Sulky of America



So! this explains WHY other threads do poorly with taking on epoxy. I have found that IF and only IF you use color preserver to coat the entrie thread area really well, you can use off brands since the CP seals out the lubrication that is placed on the thread at time of creation.

Just a little info and tip"

DR

DR - chicken grease also acts as a Color Preserver.