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Gudebrod Color Preserver - how to use it
Posted by: Jim Benenson (---.lcwireless.net)
Date: December 03, 2005 06:23PM

I like the results I get using Gudebrod Color Preserver on guide wraps. However, I find it a pain to use. The directions say to 'wipe excess'; doing so is laborious, unless I'm doing something wrong. It gels very quickly, much faster than epoxy, so by the time I try get rid of the excess, it is a mess. How do you use it? Do you 'wipe excess', leave it alone, or...?

Thanks for the help,

Jim

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Re: Gudebrod Color Preserver - how to use it
Posted by: Rob Matarazzo (---.nycmny83.dynamic.covad.net)
Date: December 03, 2005 07:05PM

Whenever I use the "milky white" color preservers, which I assume Gudebrod C.P. is, I apply two coats of 50% solution (thinned with water), followed by one coat full strength. I learned to do this with the old Clemens Brilliance and I continue to do it with other brands. It works well for me. After I've applied a coat, I just take a piece of paper towel and touch each wrap with it and let the excess get soaked up in the paper towel. You don't need to get it all off, just most of the excess. Wait a few hours between coats and at least 24 hours after the last coat before applying finish.

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Re: Gudebrod Color Preserver - how to use it
Posted by: Jim Benenson (---.lcwireless.net)
Date: December 03, 2005 07:15PM

Unfortunately, Gudebrod Color Preserver is not one of the 'milky whites'. It's a clear liquid that sets up much, much faster than they do, but it gives much better results. I have used yellow nylon and white silk(!) on a matte black rod and had no see-through. The stuff works really well, so I'm trying to find the best method of application. Thanks for the tip though.

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Re: Gudebrod Color Preserver - how to use it
Posted by: Mike Barkley (---.nap.wideopenwest.com)
Date: December 03, 2005 07:29PM

I assume that you are using the Gudebrod 811 CP. It's very good but the viscosity is VERY inconsistant between bottles. If it's real thick, you can cut with a small bit of alcohol to thin it and hang on until Andy Dear gets his new stuff on the market!!

Mike

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Re: Gudebrod Color Preserver - how to use it
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
Date: December 03, 2005 07:30PM

DOP not listen to teh advice Rob gave you about thinning, he assumed wrong. I thin it with Denatured until it is semi-watery. Start with 10% De, 90% 811. and go from there. TEHre are a TON of posts in teh SEARCH feature on thinning 811S

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Re: Gudebrod Color Preserver - how to use it
Posted by: eric zamora (---.246.114.103.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net)
Date: December 03, 2005 07:44PM

i thin my gudebrod CP with water just like the bottle suggests. just a couple of drops of water (i use brita filtered water just to make me feel serious about it ;-) to where i have the CP awaitin' in a small plastic measuring cup. very unscientific measuring process, but you know what, it works for my infrequent use of CP

eric
fresno, ca.

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Re: Gudebrod Color Preserver - how to use it
Posted by: Mike Barkley (---.nap.wideopenwest.com)
Date: December 03, 2005 08:11PM

Eric,

Which Gudebrod are you using?? The clear 811 is NOT water soluable. needs to be thinned with alcohol. Bottle specifally states to thin with alcohol clean up with water.

Mike

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Re: Gudebrod Color Preserver - how to use it
Posted by: eric zamora (---.246.114.103.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net)
Date: December 03, 2005 08:23PM

this may be where i go "oops." ;-) i've never used alcohol for thinning the CP even though i have some denatured here for overall rodbuilding use. correctly or incorrectly i've used water.

eric
fresno, ca.

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Re: Gudebrod Color Preserver - how to use it
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.250.156.115.Dial1.Weehawken1.Level3.net)
Date: December 03, 2005 08:35PM

A lot of people here say they use water ?? Try the alcohol and see if it doesn't work better

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