Hello all,

I just discussed with a colleague toigether one issue with no clear outcome up to now: We tested a Sage VT2 rod and for his taste the rod is a little too slow. It was a factory built rod with snake guides, as said factory built. Is it possible if using a blank and f.e. single foot guides to make the blank faster?

Will the outcome be considerable faster or just in a way that you can neglect the difference more or less?

Expecting your comments.


RGDS,
Ole Willers

You can make the action faster by extending it. You can make the response faster by reducing weight near the tip.

"You can make the response faster by reducing weight near the tip." => titanium guides, no cosmetic wrapping next to the tip top. small, not oversized windings with titanium single foot guides ?


RGDS,
Ole

Jan,

I tend to agree with all that has already been said, use some single foot titanium guides, make your thread wraps the smallest as possible and no costmetic so as to reduce the weight.
But I also would like to add that it depends on the action of the original blank, if it’s a tip action you have a chance to make it faster by reducing the weight on the tip, that is to say that you may have to change your original guide spacing chart. The more weight you will put on the tip the slower your action will be.
You can reduce the weight by using some “light” components but you can also reduce it by changing the position of your guides, for example, from what I learnt “on the field” the closer you start near the tip top guide, the lower the action could be (everybody may not agree with this), anyway to cut a long story short, put the minimum guides on your blank in accordance with the length of course (9'=9 guides).

I don’t know this rod yet, is it a too piece or a 3 or pieces? Is it a 9’ or 8’6 ?

For example I have managed to change a little the action of one of my 4 pieces blank by transferring one of the guide on the second piece instead of the first one (tip one), I have started further from the tip top guide than usually…of course it has an impact upon all the other guides but you have to estimate/calculate it also.

As I said everybody may not be agree with it but this what I have experienced.

Regards

Frantz

We are talking about tiny amounts of weight, here. If you wrap with 0/0 thread you will save a tiny bit more weight, or use Persalls Gossimer Silk, (about 6/0), found at Golden Witch, and get the lightest wrap I know of. Do a search on the lightest single foot snake guides and get the fastest response possible for your, or any, blank. Ralph

If at first you don't succeed, go fishing, then try, try again.

Right you can also save some weight when you apply epoxy, one coat is very often enough.

Extending the overall rod length from the butt end, and minimizing the weight of the (guides + thread + finish) in the tip section are about the only options for making the same rod blank faster, as discussed above. -Cliff Hall+++

For general reference: "Table of Effects of TRIMMING or EXTENDING a ROD BLANK on its Various Performance Properties" [www.rodbuilding.org] . -CMHall

Sell the rod and pick your self up the blank you want and build the rod and action you want.

I agree with Bill; the blank that the rod is built on is the single most important thing. Besides, to make a rod faster requires a lot more horsepower, doesn't it?? LOL!

Putter
Williston, ND

Putter to quick for me on the funnies, I was going to suggest a turbo.

Maybe a 348 with 3 duces ? Or a hemi

quote >> Maybe a 348 with 3 duces ? Or a hemi <<

Dear Bill,

I can understand German, English a few words Danish, Spanish and Arabic but even after longer studies I didnt got the conten of what you wrote.

Three options:
1. I' am stupid
2. It is a language from another stellar system
3. Combination of 1 and 2.


A big questionmark in Germany owns

Ole

A348 engine with 3 two barrel carburators, with hemispherical cylender heads. Ralph

A 348 cubic inch engine with 3 two barrel carburators, with hemispherical cylinder heads. Ralph

348 chevy motor, older hot roders used it a lot For going faster He wanted the rod to go fast ?? LOL

Thanks for your help towards my lack of knowledge regarding older IC-Motors... If I get bored from fly fishing and rodbuilding I know what to do...


;-)


Ole