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Permagloss What happened?
Posted by: Scott Parsons (---.dialup.mindspring.com)
Date: October 03, 2005 08:06AM

Hey everyone, I coated 2 blanks with 2 coats of Permagloss let them sit for 4 days and then put the handle and reel seat on with Rod Bond when I went to wipe off the excess Rod Bond with Denatured Alcohol Some of the permagloss finish started to come off as I wiped it down. Not all over just in a couple of places. What could have caused this. So I don't have it happen again? Thanks Scott Parsons

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Re: Permagloss What happened?
Posted by: Ralph D. Jones (---.bhm.bellsouth.net)
Date: October 03, 2005 08:26AM

I don't know what happened unless one of the additives in the denatured alcohol disolved the perma-gloss. I do believe 91%clear rubbing alcohol is a better choice. Ask a pharmacist, will have or can get it. Ralph

If at first you don't succeed, go fishing, then try, try again.

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Re: Permagloss What happened?
Posted by: Anonymous User (Moderator)
Date: October 03, 2005 08:39AM

Cured Permagloss shouldn't be affected by a quick wipe with denatured alcohol. My first thought, since you say it only came off in places, was that your surface prep might have been a bit lacking and what you've done is take off the finish from those areas where it wasn't able to adhere very well. This is just a guess on my part - it's hard to really tell without being able to see the item firsthand.

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Re: Permagloss What happened?
Posted by: Clyde Roberts (---.se.biz.rr.com)
Date: October 03, 2005 05:10PM

I'm going to guess that it wasn't fully cured. I had this happen to me with epoxy one time. I was in a rush and was going to try and fish the rod one weekend and put the epoxy on thursday night. Friday morning I was cleaning the rod up with denatured alcohol, and the alcohol took off the epoxy in places just as you describe. I attributed mine to the epoxy not being fully cured, have never had it happen before or since.

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Re: Permagloss What happened?
Posted by: Cliff Hall (---.dialup.ufl.edu)
Date: October 03, 2005 10:49PM

Scott - more likely poor surface prep. Did the PG surface come off in flakes (poor prep), or did it dissolve first like a gel (strong solvent)? ... If there was a curing failure, was it an especially DRY day (no humidity) or too much air conditioning? PG needs water vapor / air moisture to cure. But 4 days should have been enough, IMO. Cliff Hall+++

FYI - PG not curing right is an entirely different ball game than epoxy not curing right. PG curing may fail because of low humidity. Epoxy finish fails to cure well due to unequal ratio of parts and / or poor mixing of the reactants. -CMH.

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