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Beware Isopropyl !
Posted by: Raymond Adams (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: August 26, 2005 04:28AM

I got some glue residue from the masking tape holding a guide in place
either from my hand or left on the blank and then squeezed thu to the top
of a guide wrap. No problem I thought, I'll just dampen a soft cloth with
some isopropyl and clean it off. Well, the thread I was using was a metalic
blue (unknown maker) and the isopropyl cut the glue residue alright and
took the "blue" off the thread as well leaving a shiny silver.
Will have to re-wrap that guide. Just thought I would pass this info along
to others who might run into the same problem with the glue residue.

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

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Re: Beware Isopropyl !
Posted by: Billy Vivona (4.43.114.---)
Date: August 26, 2005 09:11AM

That's normal - Gudebrod, Madeira, Sulky - even metallic colored beer labels (trick up my sleeve) - will tarnish if you rub them enough. So, if you have a metal burnishing tool you run the risk of turning the metallics silver if you rub too much, or the wrong way, or.....use something else, lol. Using alcohol, Denatured or otherwise - will do the same thing. I do not think the alcohol turned it silver, I think that, combined with you rubbing it is what did it.

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Re: Beware Isopropyl !
Posted by: Mike Barkley (---.nap.wideopenwest.com)
Date: August 26, 2005 09:32AM

I also learned the hard way!

Mike

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Re: Beware Isopropyl !
Posted by: Scott VanGuilder (162.96.105.---)
Date: August 26, 2005 10:06AM

I would just be glad that it wasn't six hours into a complex but wrap:)

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Re: Beware Isopropyl !
Posted by: Raymond Adams (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: August 26, 2005 11:21AM

Scott V,
You got hat right!!

Hey! I have beed adding silver metalic inlays and I wonder if I could I could use this effect
to my advantage? Instead of adding the inlays, just use the iso to remove some blue on
purpose and have the same look? Na, the inlays would be easier. Just thinking out loud!

Thanks guys

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

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Re: Beware Isopropyl !
Posted by: Randy Parpart (Putter) (---.nccray.com)
Date: August 26, 2005 11:49AM

I think you'd have finish problems over the alcohol rubbed areas, too, Raymond. Not a good idea to rub alcohol on an area of any kind and then apply finish or adhesive.

Putter
Williston, ND

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Re: Beware Isopropyl !
Posted by: Raymond Adams (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: August 26, 2005 12:00PM

Good point Putter! Thanks for the reminder!
Have a great day

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

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Re: Beware Isopropyl !
Posted by: John Ridderbos (---.dslglue.ctsmail.net)
Date: August 26, 2005 02:32PM

okay educate me. What can we use to remove adhesive and epoxy that gets where it shouldnt? I was told fingernail polish remover, which I believe is isopropyl alcohol.

john



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Re: Beware Isopropyl !
Posted by: Billy Vivona (4.43.114.---)
Date: August 26, 2005 02:47PM

Don't use anything - just dont' get anything on it to begin with

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Re: Beware Isopropyl !
Posted by: Raymond Adams (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: August 26, 2005 02:51PM

John,
There was an earlier post on that very subject. Denatured alcohol and isopropyl work very well.
Just don't get any on thread wraps! Fingernail polish remover is part acetone I think not isopropyl.
Some other products I have used to remove glues & adhesives are WD-40, Disolve-it, SimpleGreen.
Go back a couple of pages and see the earlier thread.



Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

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Re: Beware Isopropyl !
Posted by: Randy Parpart (Putter) (---.nccray.com)
Date: August 26, 2005 04:08PM

Yeah, fingernail polish remover is an acetone base (at least the bottles that I've looked at).

Putter
Williston, ND

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Re: Beware Isopropyl !
Posted by: Ed Grella (---.37.99.208.adsl.snet.net)
Date: August 26, 2005 09:58PM

I think I would keep wd-40 far far away from the blanks. Your looking for fisheye problems in your epoxy. Ed

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Re: Beware Isopropyl !
Posted by: John Ridderbos (---.dslglue.ctsmail.net)
Date: August 27, 2005 06:10AM

ah, alright I got my chemicals confused.

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Re: Beware Isopropyl !
Posted by: Cliff Hall (---.dialup.ufl.edu)
Date: August 27, 2005 11:38PM

General Review of Solvents:

DENATURED ALCOHOL = 91% ETHANOL + 5% METHANOL + 4% WATER

ETHANOL = the "ALCOHOL" found in beer, wine & liquor.

METHANOL = the "WOOD" alcohol. Highly toxic when ingested.

ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL = the "rubbing alcohol". Usually 70% or 91%.

ACETONE = the "nail polish remover" ketone. Powerful solvent.

METHYL ETHYL KETONE = the "MEK" ketone found in brush cleaner.

ALCOHOLS and KETONES are different types of organic solvents. Generally, alcohols are safer than ketones, and sufficently strong solvents for most clean-up applications in rod building. All organics solvents should be used with ventilation. Skin contact should be avoided. All these solvents are flammable.

"NAIL POLISH REMOVER" usually contains acetone, and / or some esters (butyl or ethyl acetate), plus an oil to replace the skin oils stripped out by the acetone. This oil could easily leave a residue on a porous surface, and reduce adhesion of any rod or thread finish.

Please refer to these two related Posts for further general cautions and excellent contributions from a number of qualified commentators:

"ACETONE" [Mike Schneilein 10-18-04 15:26]
[www.rodbuilding.org]

"ACETONE? NOT on YOUR HANDS !!!" [Cliff Hall 10-19-04 03:01]
[www.rodbuilding.org]
[www.rodbuilding.org]

"ROD FINISH" [Jason Bennett 11-22-04 05:31]
Is the rod finish we use every day bad for us?
[www.rodbuilding.org]

-Cliff Hall, Gainesville, FL-USA+++



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/27/2005 11:43PM by Cliff Hall.

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