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Wax your threaded rod
Posted by: John Butterfield (---.adsl.gulftel.net)
Date: August 22, 2005 12:55PM

I made a fore grip on a threaded rod. Glued the corks together, then it sat for a week. This morning I formed it just how I wanted and it looked great. Tried to thread it off and it would not move. Tried several things including a strap wrench but ended up cutting it off. This was a new rod and I forgot to wax it first. I know I should get tapered mandrels but I have not. Don't forget to wax threaded rods before you make a handle. Another dumb move by John. John Butterfield

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Re: Wax your threaded rod
Posted by: Ken Finch (---.int.bellsouth.net)
Date: August 22, 2005 02:15PM

I don't think you want tapered mandrels, just straight mandreals. Drill rod will work. Just a thin coat of parraffin wax is all it takes and they're usually a bit straighter than all-thread rod.

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Re: Wax your threaded rod
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.an2.nyc41.da.uu.net)
Date: August 22, 2005 02:37PM

You might have used a lot or too much rod bond. I use a threaded rod for cork all the time and just loosen one nut - then tighten the other and they come off.
Don't load on the bond, very thin coat does not take much at all.

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Re: Wax your threaded rod
Posted by: John Butterfield (---.adsl.gulftel.net)
Date: August 22, 2005 03:12PM

I use Elmers Probond. It has always worked for me and have no reason to switch. It comes off easy, unless you forget to wax a new threaded rod. What compounded this dumb move is that it sat for a week and the Probond was really set. Screwing it off with the nut did not work. The whole thing bunched up and split. I just ran a die across the threads of that rod, then waxed it. It won't happen again, unless I screw up again, which I might. John Butterfield

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Re: Wax your threaded rod
Posted by: Ralph D. Jones (---.dialup.mindspring.com)
Date: August 22, 2005 03:33PM

John, I've been wondering where my pet Gremlin got off to. LOL As long as I've been rodbuilding, if I don't look at my list of step-by-step instructions I'll miss one and Foul up. If you tell us about even half of your mistakes you're ahead of me. Oh, you can keep the gremlin, I don't want him/her/it (?) back. Humor aside, better luck next time. Ralph

If at first you don't succeed, go fishing, then try, try again.

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Re: Wax your threaded rod
Posted by: Billy Vivona (4.43.114.---)
Date: August 22, 2005 03:59PM

RAther than use Rod Bond to glue up teh cork rings on the drill rod, use Contact cement. In 20 minutes everything is all glued up, squeezed together, and ready for sanding - althoough it's wise to wait a little while until you familiarize yourself with how long it takes to set up based on how much you use.

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Re: Wax your threaded rod
Posted by: Lou Reyna (---.hr.hr.cox.net)
Date: August 22, 2005 10:49PM

Had the same problem before. I tried to move the grip a bit before shaping. It was STUCK on a piece of all thread, and would not budge. I did not want to damage the cork since the cork rings cost me plenty.

I taped the cork over with masking tape for protection. I then heated the allthread on either end of the cork grip. It did not take long before the epoxy softened to the point that its bond failed. It came right of in one piece. The cork smoked a little from the hot allthread rod, but no visible damage. Anymore I make sure the rod is coated with wax before use. The grip was 10" long.

Lou

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Re: Wax your threaded rod
Posted by: Ted Morgan (---.tvlres.jcu.edu.au)
Date: August 23, 2005 06:01AM

I had the same trouble. What wax do you guys use? I just spun the allthread against a candle, and thought the coverage was good enough, but come time to pull the cork off, it was a bit tight. It came off with a screwing motion though.

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Re: Wax your threaded rod
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.an3.nyc41.da.uu.net)
Date: August 23, 2005 07:10AM

When you put the cork on the threaded rod make sure they slid easy.
When you put the rod bond on, stay away from the hole, and you only need a " very " thin coat.
Use large washers and wing nuts to hold them.
Next day loosen one nut ---then tighten the other nut and it will PUSH the assembly loose.

Then to clean the allthread I put it on a drill and run a hack saw over it

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Re: Wax your threaded rod
Posted by: Mike Barkley (---.nap.wideopenwest.com)
Date: August 23, 2005 11:42AM

Remember to use VERY little Rod Bond (or whatever you use) I put it on and immediately scrape off as much as possible! More adhesive doesn't mean more strength. The surface only need to be damp. I just use candles and rub up and down the all thread.

Mike

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