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U-40 and Gudebrod
Posted by:
Ron Groves
(---.att.net)
Date: July 28, 2005 07:57PM
I have cust who wanted his custom built rod (1973) restored. The orig maker wrapped about 10" near the butt with thread and wrote all the info on this.
The owner wanted this part left, but protected. I put U-40 color lock on the threads, waited 24hrs, put Gudebrod rod restorer on, waited 24hrs, then put U-40 perma gloss on. I had barely finished when I saw that the perma gloss was starting to, what looks like crystalize. Anyone know what I did wrong? Also what will be a safe way to take it off without messing up the makers mark? Thanks for any help. Re: U-40 and Gudebrod
Posted by:
Anonymous User
(Moderator)
Date: July 28, 2005 08:04PM
Permagloss has a hot solvent in it and it probably ate into the Rod Restorer which is some type of a water-based urethane (I think). Why did you overcoat the Gudebrod product with Permagloss? Both are designed as top coats. One or the other, but not both, would have been fine.
So what to do now? I can't see the rod so I don't know how bad things might be. It's possible you could sand the surface smooth and start again, with one or the other product. How much of the original finish was still on top of the thread and inscription? ........ Re: U-40 and Gudebrod
Posted by:
Randy Gerrick
(---.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net)
Date: July 30, 2005 10:24PM
Be very careful sanding. Just stick with the Permagloss. I don't use color preserver on my wraps and I like how they turn out. I get full penetration of the finish and usually only 4 to 5 coats is uaually more than enough. If you like feeling thread ridges than two or three coats would work. On older fiberglass rods I will use a size D thread and three coats of permagloss. I bought a bottle of the Gudebrod Rod varnish and asked what other builders thought about it and never got the answer I was looking for. Having now used them both I can say that I like the Permagloss better. Why? Because the finish is glossier, seems to have better thread penetration and is hard and resistant to scratches. The Gudebrod is soft and I can peel it off with my fingernail after the finish has had at least 24 hours of drying time. I will one thing the Gudebrod has over the Permagloss in that it doesn't give off harsh fumes and I don't need to open every window where I'm working. But overall I prefer the Permagloss over all other finishes for the reasons I stated above.
One other thing I found out and this might be a reson I don;t uses CP on Permagloss and that is I experienced the same problem as you. My remedy to the problem? Just don't use CP. Hope this helps. Randy Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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