Just want to ask has anyone had any feedback from using the lightweight single leg rec guides,as i have a problem in a customers rod in that they same to be sticking/vibrating/grating type noise coming from the rings during the retrieve of a fly.

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in Advance

Bryan

I've just had the same problem with my recoil guides. in the beginning it made a lot of noise and vibrations when used with dry lines (dry as in should be treated with line dressing soon). After about a month I thought my XXD lines must have a bad coating. However often I dressed them they'd only last for about half an hour before the line started sticking to the rod. When I examined the guides they were compleatly worn out. All the recoil guides had noticeable trenches from the line. The top guide was worn 1/3 way throug. Now I have to change all the guides on a rod I built this winter and have used for about two months. Rec didn't have a good explaniation, but are sending me a new set of guides...

I've just had the same problem with my recoil guides. in the beginning it made a lot of noise and vibrations when used with dry lines (dry as in should be treated with line dressing soon). After about a month I thought my XXD lines must have a bad coating. However often I dressed them they'd only last for about half an hour before the line started sticking to the rod. When I examined the guides they were compleatly worn out. All the recoil guides had noticeable trenches from the line. The top guide was worn 1/3 way throug. Now I have to change all the guides on a rod I built this winter and have used for about two months. Rec didn't have a good explaniation, but are sending me a new set of guides...

Might just be me that have this problem (Rec claimed to never have heard of it before), but have a close look at your guides just in case.
Magnus

Bryan, I used my first set of single foot recoils several years ago when they were still fairly new on the market. The only problem I experienced, was that they didn't appear to cast well with clear intermediate lines. When the line was wet, casting was just ok, but when dry, the line really gripped the guides and caused some noise and vibration and I had to do many more false casts than usual. Since that particular rod was intended to be used with clear intermediate lines quite often, I went back to chrome guides and used the recoils on a stream rod. The stream rod works brilliantly with them and I've recently used them again on a couple of rods where light weight was the primary consideration and using a clear intermediate was not. I just lawn cast one of those new rods with a standard Rio floater and they cleared out the whole line with no problems at all (it's off season where I am, so I don't get to test them for real for a while!)
I'd be asking about the lines used, because in my limited experience there might be an incompatability problem between recoils and some line coatings, though I've no scientific background and have no idea why. Jim

Magnus,

Your experience is certainly interesting - and cause for a bit of alarm in terms of wear. Can't imagine this kind of wear on good ceramics. Still, have heard great experience by others on the recoils.

Wonder if anyone else has the same experience in terms of wear.

Thanks for the post.
Mo

Bryan and Magnus
RECoils are the only snakes that I offer for my custom rod customers and frankly the only snakes I've put on my own rods for a long time. After wearing the coating off PVD TiN snakes in one rigorous season i never went back to plated guides. I'm talking both sng and dbl ft RECoils. I'll still use ceramics but for snakes it's been straight RECoils for some time.
The only feedback I get on them is squeaking and this is usually with a dry fly line. This really bothers some people but I tell them that they'll be happy in five years when their guides are still slick and groove free. The truth is that they are not the most efficient guides out there. That squeaking means friction. I'm simply sold on the 2)bendiness and the 1)solid alloy.
Believe me I'll be checking very closely for gouging and grooves next time I look at one of my well-used rods but I've never had that problem.
Great to get perspectives.
Best,
Josh Markvan
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