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LS Supreme High Build
Posted by: Ron Greenbank (---.cot.net)
Date: May 24, 2005 11:45AM

What do you guys know about LS Supreme High Build? I've seen it mentioned a few times and checked their website but they don't mention it. I'm wondering mostly about bubble release and working time. I'm finally getting faster at applying finish but have a hard time getting one coat to work with regular LS. I've never had an air bubble in the regular LS and love it for that reason.
Any info and/or hints for the high build would be appreciated.

Thanks
Ron

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Re: LS Supreme High Build
Posted by: Anonymous User (Moderator)
Date: May 24, 2005 11:48AM

Bubble release is good. Same working time as the regular formual, about 40 minutes. Very thick in the mix cup but can be applied thinly if desired.

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Re: LS Supreme High Build
Posted by: PAUL BEAULIEU (---.37.245.35.adsl.snet.net)
Date: May 24, 2005 12:07PM

Ordered some LS Hi-build recently but haven't tried it yet. I had heard LS doens't like heat very much and I'm used to torching FC to the point of run-off to level out the wraps and get rid of tiny bubbles. Hey, I learned that way and it works for me ! (unless you get too aggressive with the heat).
Do I have to abandon my "flaming" ways to be successful with LS Hi-build? Thought I'd tap into the collective experience here before doing some practice wraps.

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Re: LS Supreme High Build
Posted by: keith fischer (---.marvin.com)
Date: May 24, 2005 01:56PM

I find the stuff to be fabulous. My routine is to use a first coat of regular LS and follow up with one coat of LS High Build. A second coat of High Build is needed sometimes if the cross wrap is high. The finish comes out crystal clear and level. Since I started my routine I've never had to go back and do touch up on the guide feet either as the stuff is thick enough that it covers even the highest guide feet. It's great stuff.

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Re: LS Supreme High Build
Posted by: keith fischer (---.marvin.com)
Date: May 24, 2005 01:56PM

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/24/2005 01:58PM by keith fischer.

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Re: LS Supreme High Build
Posted by: Anonymous User (Moderator)
Date: May 24, 2005 02:26PM

You do not want to "torch" the Supreme (I can't imagine having to do that to any finish, but I know that some do). Supreme will easily boil if you put that kind of heat on it. Just let it do what it knows how to do. If you're going to use it and like it, you'll have to adapt your finishing technique a little bit.

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Re: LS Supreme High Build
Posted by: Rich Levy (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: May 25, 2005 07:37AM

LS is great stuff. The first time I used it, I applied it with a brush, but quickly switched over to a narrow butter knife. No heat is necessary. The most important thing I've learned is to get it on the wraps and leave it alone. It self levels and releases bubbles pretty nicely. The more you touch it, the less likely you are to end up with a level finish.

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Re: LS Supreme High Build
Posted by: Andrew White (66.204.20.---)
Date: May 25, 2005 08:46AM

I've used LS Supreme for quite awhile. I've not tried the LS Supreme High-Build yet. However, I can address the bubble release issue a little. The stuff is fantastic about releasing bubbles on its own. But, if you do manage to introduce some bubbles, especially late in the curing process, you can still get them out pretty easily.

For example, on long butt wraps, I glob the stuff on, finish my guide wraps, then go back and brush the butt wrap lengthwise. My finish is usually starting to set-up some at this point. Needless to say, I'll occasionally introduce some bubbles when I do this. And, with the LS already hardening, the bubbles won't necessarily release on their own.

All I do is take a straw (little coffee stir stick straws seem to work best), and blow on every single part of the butt wrap. This releases all the bubbles. You could just blow on the bubbles that you can see, and that would likely take care of it. But, I've discovered that I won't see all the bubbles (especially ones over metallic threads), so I blow on the whole butt wrap area just to be sure. This will also work for the occasional bubble on a guide wrap too.

I probably wouldn't have any bubble issues if I went to a spatula AND didn't try to work my epoxy after 40 minutes or so. But, I'm used to the brush, and I'm cheap, so I try to get all the guide wraps and the butt wrap done with one pot of finish.

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