I did a smple weave a couple of days ago and it looked good went to do it on a rod and it came out short almost squashed lookeing. I used the same pattern. and same thread as before is it is shorter and thinner than before. is it possible to pack to tight or have to much tension on thread? When trying to tighten up at the end I got almost no movement and broke a thread inside the pattern? Any ideas what I did wrong or differnt?

Sounds like you answered your own question with too tight turning thread and packed much tighter than the practice weave. What size thread are you using?

Thats the only thing I think could have been differnt . Iused a ncp for weave threads and c ncp for the wrap. this should have helped stretch out the pattern not compressed it right?

Depends on the pattern also, if I did one of my patterns with A weave threads and c turning thread it would look out of proportion, too long and skinny, it depends on the pattern, Upton does most of his with a larger diameter turning thread that weave threads and they look fine, Doc says he uses B turning threads with A weave threads WHEN he does them in A, most of his are in C and D. What pattern did you use?

i did a spider there is picture of the test posted a week ago the one i did on a rod came out short and shaped differnt maybe hank could post a picture of it.