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Building my first fly rod
Posted by: James Schuldes (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 21, 2005 08:26PM

I just received a blank:

American Tackle Matrix series 6'6 2 pc. MODERATE 2 wt. 3.5 (tip) .269 (butt) 0.8 weight - looks really nice - green finish shines.

I am thinking of doing gold colored guides and tip top. Would it be a bad idea to go with single foot guides instead of snake foot guides? And how many guides would be right for a rod this length? I have a Reddington Red.Fly 3/4 wt reel I was going to use with 3 wt line. Thinking of a rosewood reel seat with half wells cork handle -- or toying with the idea of the all cork handle with slide rings.

Would really enjoy hearing your comments and suggestions.

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Re: Building my first fly rod
Posted by: David von Doehren (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: April 21, 2005 08:43PM

HI, Yes I would go with single foot guides, they control the line better, keeps line away from blank , guide doesn't let line slap against rod. Some of the other builders could answer your guide spacing better then myself, I'm sometime radical about guide sizes and spacing.

Dave von Doehren
PRRODS......If man built it , man can fix it.and if man built it man can break it !

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Re: Building my first fly rod
Posted by: Scott Kinney (---.nrockv01.md.comcast.net)
Date: April 21, 2005 09:27PM

Send it back immediately.

It's worse than crack.
And probably more expensive.

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Re: Building my first fly rod
Posted by: Anonymous User (---.cg.shawcable.net)
Date: April 21, 2005 10:02PM

Ha! Too funny, Scott! :)

James--I'd go with H&H standoff single foot guides in their TiN (gold) plating. We've got them in stock in our VA distribution center. REC Recoils would be another great choice. Either way, I'd probably go with 4 - sz 1's, 1 - sz 2, 1 - sz 3, and a size 10 TiN ringed ceramic stripping guide. We've got the gold tip tops, hook keepers, and winding checks in stock as well so you can pimp up the rest of the rod, too! ;)

Actually, got some sweet gold wc's coming in from Germany shortly--we'll be sure to post here once they're in.

I'd reserve judgment on which line to use until you do a Common Cents test or just go and play with it with a few lines. A 2wt Rio PocketWater or Cortland Clear Creek might be just the ticket, but again...if you're serious about finding the perfect line/rod marriage, order the Common Cents info pack from Tom K. and get a true sense of the power of the rod.

All the best on your new venture! :)

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Re: Building my first fly rod
Posted by: Anonymous User (---.colorado.edu)
Date: April 21, 2005 10:37PM

James when I get home tonight I'll post the guide sizes and spacing I used on my 6'6" 2 piece 2 weight.


Mark

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Re: Building my first fly rod
Posted by: Scott Kinney (---.nrockv01.md.comcast.net)
Date: April 22, 2005 03:05AM

The Matrix series pleasantly surprised me-- I picked up a 7'9" 3 weight at the Charlotte show and found it to be not just eye-catching but a good quality fishing blank too.

My girlfriend spotted it on the way to @#$%& and called dibs on it. I am a fan of that situation as it means that I can have it around as a demo rod as well as fishing it every once in a while...

I built mine with a #10 alconite single foot stripper, #4, #2, and then #1's out to the tip.

If you can get ahold of a Triangle Taper WF2F, it would match your rod beautifully. I am a huge proponent of triangle/delta taper lines on 1-3 weights as they allow for light presentations but load fairly quickly.


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Re: Building my first fly rod
Posted by: Mike Parker (208.6.1.---)
Date: April 22, 2005 09:01AM

I recently finished a Pac Bay Rainforest (dark green) 6' 6" 2 wt. I used AmTac size 5 ceramics with the gold ring. The size 5 guides are very small, and although they weigh slightly more than single foot snakes, I believe that the benefits are worth a slight (very slight) increase. Plus, they look very sharp on the green blank with a matching Ti finished reel seat.

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Re: Building my first fly rod
Posted by: Gerry Rhoades (---.unifield.com)
Date: April 22, 2005 09:51AM

I want to second John's suggestion to do a Common Cents test on this blank. I''ve built on Matrix blanks before and have two more in the works right now. These are really nice blanks but they are also very quick and so far every one has CC'd at more than Amtak rates them for. Go to the CCS Data Site and look at the numbers for the few Matrix blanks that are there. My guess is that you'll want to use a 3 weight line because the 2 weight just won't load it properly, unless you plan on casting more than 40-50 feet on a regular basis.

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Re: Building my first fly rod
Posted by: Don Davis (199.173.226.---)
Date: April 22, 2005 03:40PM

Gold wire SFs will look great. Get a #10 gold plated and ceramic SF for the stripper.

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Re: Building my first fly rod
Posted by: Scott Kinney (---.nrockv01.md.comcast.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 01:12AM

I had mine CC'd at Charlotte by the man himself (Dr. Hanneman), and it came out below the recommended designation--

7'9" 3 weight AmTak Matrix came out at 2.82 ERN and 68AA

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Re: Building my first fly rod
Posted by: Steve Rushing (---.asm.bellsouth.net)
Date: April 23, 2005 09:45AM

James - I've recently finished 2 green blanks with a gold theme - a Rainshadow RX7 6' 6" 2wt and a Pac Bay Rainforest 7'6" 4wt. I used gold SF's for the running guides on both. The only issue I had was that I could not find gold rings for a all cork seat/grip for the Rainshadow . I ended up using some brass rings from the hardware store, but I'm not really happy with the set up. Maybe someone has a good idea/source for gold rings for a double sliding band seat. Other than that, I'm pleased with the look and performance.

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