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trouble gluing onto American matrix
Posted by: Thomas Tysver (---.westriv.com)
Date: March 27, 2005 05:45PM

Having trouble gluing the cork grip and reel seat onto an American matrix pole. Been using Devcon on other poles but for some reason is not holding onto this one. Thought first did not mix the right amount to gether. But that didn't work for the second time. So was wondering what brand that I should be looking at or is there something else that I may be doing wrong?

Thanks for the information, Tom

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Re: trouble gluing onto American matrix
Posted by: Spencer Phipps (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: March 27, 2005 05:57PM

Are you scuffing up the surface on the blank where the grip will go with a grey scotchbrite pad? It may not be able to bond to the gloss finish. It may also have a wax on the blank. I use Rod Bond on everything, it has never failed me yet.

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Re: trouble gluing onto American matrix
Posted by: Gerry Rhoades (---.vnet-inc.com)
Date: March 27, 2005 07:40PM

I've built on one of these and had absolutely no trouble using Rod Bond.

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Re: trouble gluing onto American matrix
Posted by: Anonymous User (Moderator)
Date: March 27, 2005 07:47PM

Just make sure you have a water break free surface and all will be well. Check the online library here for the info on how to do that.

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Re: trouble gluing onto American matrix
Posted by: Joel Todd (---.nas6.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net)
Date: March 27, 2005 08:34PM

I just built one of these last week.I scuffed up the blank with a Scotchbrite pad,wiped with alcohol and used Rod Bond.It seem to hold just fine.Joel

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Re: trouble gluing onto American matrix
Posted by: Anonymous User (Moderator)
Date: March 27, 2005 08:40PM

Sounds good, but you need to reverse the procedure a bit. Wipe with alcohol first, then scuff with Scotchbrite and then adhere. Never allow a solvent wipe to be the last step in the procedure.

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Re: trouble gluing onto American matrix
Posted by: Thomas Tysver (---.westriv.com)
Date: March 28, 2005 01:44AM

Yes did some scuffing on the pole, but didn't try the water break free test. Will do that tomorrow and order some new glue, out of the other any way.

Tom

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Re: trouble gluing onto American matrix
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.248.67.41.Dial1.Weehawken1.Level3.net)
Date: March 28, 2005 07:22AM

Sand the area with 220 dry then wipe it off with a paper towel , rag

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Re: trouble gluing onto American matrix
Posted by: Joel Todd (---.nas6.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net)
Date: March 28, 2005 06:23PM

Hello Mr. Kirkman.If you don't mind me asking.Why would you wipe the area first before scuffing and not after to remove the sanding residue and other contaniments?I would understand if you were using an oil-based solvent or does Isopropoyl Alcohol have the same issues?Thanks Joel I learn something here everyday.

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Re: trouble gluing onto American matrix
Posted by: Anonymous User (Moderator)
Date: March 28, 2005 07:20PM

Any contaminants should be removed prior to doing anything else. Scuffing won't contaminate the surface and the minute residue or dust from that operation will not harm the resulting water break free surface. If it bothers you, take a soft bristled brush and dust off the area prior to applying adhesive or finish.

Very often, the last step of wiping with a solvent simply smears any contaminants across the whole of the surface, ruining your water break free surface. This is why a solvent is used first, to clean the surface in preparation for the real work being done by the Scotchbrite.

You will also find that a desired static charge is created when the last step is the use of Scotchbrite, although the materials we generally use don't really hold such a charge for very long.

What you've done, scuff and then wipe with solvent, is incorrect, but due to the type loads we normally experience with regard to fishing rods I don't think you need to worry about your adhesive jobs. Likely they'll be just fine (we've all done things exactly the way you did) but in the future you might as well go about it in the proper order. Can't hurt!


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Re: trouble gluing onto American matrix
Posted by: Joel Todd (---.nas6.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net)
Date: March 29, 2005 02:58PM

Thanks for your response.I will do things in future like you said.Makes sense to me.Good Fishin' Joel

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