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Color protector on metallic thread?
Posted by: Daniel Rotea (---.58.38.42.proxycache.rima-tde.net)
Date: January 29, 2005 03:01PM

I imagin this is a silly question but, must color protector be applied over metallic thread (I mean in a wrap made only with metallic thread) or just if there is any "non protected" nylon thread in the wrap?

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Re: Color protector on metallic thread?
Posted by: Mike Barkley (---.nap.wideopenwest.com)
Date: January 29, 2005 03:14PM

It's not necessary for color retention but on decorative wraps I always use it to "lock" the threads in place (at least where the threads cross) so they don't shift when applying epoxy.

Mike



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/29/2005 05:04PM by Mike Barkley.

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Re: Color protector on metallic thread?
Posted by: Bob Barlas (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: January 29, 2005 03:17PM

CP will help on a metalic A underwrap. when the guide is also wrapped in A thread. The underwrap stays put while packing and burnishing the guide wrap. There is no color change on metalic with or without CP.

Bob


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Re: Color protector on metallic thread?
Posted by: Randy Parpart (Putter) (---.nccray.com)
Date: January 29, 2005 03:21PM

On a GUIDE underwrap of metallic, I'd go with a thin coat of finish before I'd use CP on it (just to help with the over wraps staying in place with no gaps). On buttwraps, either way is fine.

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Re: Color protector on metallic thread?
Posted by: Tom Doyle (---.ipt.aol.com)
Date: January 29, 2005 03:42PM

I THOUGHT I agreed with what was said above, about no CP really needed, UNTIL I did a butt wrap where one of the threads was a light blue metallic (Sulky # 142-7044). When I put on the epoxy, there was just enough "show-through" of the underlying threads to make me wish I had used CP. The darker metallics, as well as the gold and silver, did not have this problem.

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Re: Color protector on metallic thread?
Posted by: Randy Parpart (Putter) (---.nccray.com)
Date: January 29, 2005 03:50PM

The Sulky 142-7044 is a pearlescent blue and will get a bit translucent/transparent? as the pearls are designed to do. I think the pearls are normally used with an underwrapped color made to show through the pearl overwrap for special effects.

Putter



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/29/2005 03:52PM by Randy Parpart (Putter).

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Re: Color protector on metallic thread?
Posted by: Jim Kastorff (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: January 29, 2005 04:56PM

I soak my buttwrap that are mostly made with A metallics with Flexcoat CP also to lock the threads in place prior to putting on finish. I also use A metallics alot for guide wraps but avoid using cp their as it will prevent the finish from soaking into the threads making for a weaker wrap than one without cp.

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Re: Color protector on metallic thread?
Posted by: Hugh Miller (---.dalect01.va.comcast.net)
Date: January 29, 2005 10:09PM

Madeira thread requires a coat of CP before applying finish. It has a lubricant (silicone?) because its primary use is in high speed sewing machines.

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Re: Color protector on metallic thread?
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.250.195.254.Dial1.Weehawken1.Level3.net)
Date: January 30, 2005 09:55AM

Put at least one coat on --- even just to get rid of bubbles

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