How well do guides with alconite rings hold up with super lines like Spider Wire? What rings should not be used with super lines?

No quality ceramic guide will be harmed by the use of "super lines."

Sometime for kicks, and if you have a file to destroy, try filing a groove into an alconite or even a hardloy ring. Do be advised, however, that you will permanently ruin your file, regardless of it's quality and Rockwell hardness.

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I have a rod with hardaloy guides in my shop right now that has seen extensive use of "superlines" with no ill efftects. The owner switched from mono to braided line on this rod some years ago. He's had fish on that pull a significant amount of line off the reel while the rod is under load. The guides have not grooved. The rod's in the shop to have a guide replaced that was cracked when the rod/reel combo was dropped on the asphalt..

Lou

My own (unscientific) belief of problems associated with superlines grooving guides is just the simple fact that dirt in (dirty) water adheres to this line more so than mono and tends to groove guides more so than the mono.

I'm probably all wet (and dirty), though...

Putter

In my area (Lake Erie) the majority of (including charters) trollers use braided/superlines. They also use mostly below $50 rods and I get more than my share of guide replacements (abuse, stepped on, etc. ) I'm 65 and I can honestly say that I have never seen a grooved ring. One friend of mine, a charter captain is booked over a 150 trips a year and trolls for walleye and steelhead (steelies will run strong and long), uses cheap rods with cheap guides and Fireline on all of them. I do all of his rod work. Haver never seen a grooved guide
Not saying it doesn't happen, but I've yet to see it

Mike

I guess the only time I see it is on paddlefishing rods on the (very dirty water) Missouri River here. They groove badly in this environment-typically use 5 oz. weights (snagging).

Putter

I may be intolerant, but I will never consider snagging to be fishing.

Exactly why I don't do it; most people who do it call it "paddle drinking". And for good reason...

Putter

I read somewhere that Fuji recommends Alconites or better for braid.

BUT, been using superlines for years on Premier St. Croixs (w/ Hardloid guides) and they still passed the q-tip test.

Hardloy and hialoy guides are fine with these types of line, that's for sure.

Putter

Hardloys are just fine with braid. The newer generations of braid are made o be more guide friendly anyway, so good braid will always work. Now looks are an entirely different kettle of fish!!!