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wrapping: towards or away
Posted by: Anonymous User (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: January 23, 2005 01:19PM

Just thinking about a post I read about power wrappers. It mentioned the direction of spin being towards or away on different models. On my unpowered hand wrapper, I have the thread in front of me and I spin the rod away from me. Anyone prefer one way or the other, and why? Its cold and snowy and I'm waiting for parts, just thought I'd ask. Respectfully, Levi

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Re: wrapping: towards or away
Posted by: Noel Spann (12.39.180.---)
Date: January 23, 2005 01:49PM

Levi,
On my PacBay Rodsmith the top turns away from me, thats the way I taught myself so it was natural for me when I started using a power wrapper.
Noel

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Re: wrapping: towards or away
Posted by: Cliff Hall (---.dialup.ufl.edu)
Date: January 23, 2005 02:52PM

Whichever way the blank / motor spins, the preference is that you spin the rod blank or position yourself & the thread or point the rod tip to the left or right SO THAT you can WATCH THE THREAD as is it is wound onto the rod blank or guide. That should help keep the gap between adjacent threads toward zero, and allow you to not let threads wind on top of each other. It seems most people find watching the thread wind onto the the blank while LOOKING DOWN ONTO THE BLANK to be the easiest and least fatiguing. Whatever terminology you use to describe your relative position and direction, that's the essence of the goal for most builders.

If you're always wrapping a guide from off the toes, up the hill, toward the heel & legs, then that's the only other direction that matters. From the blank toward the ring, whether the guide is single-foot or double-foot. Regardless of which foot is being wrapped on a double-footed guide. Always wrap a guide from the blank toward the ring. Trim wraps would usually be wrapped away from the ring; but whatever is easier for your set-up. Even if guides are mounted "backwards", work from the blank toward the guide ring. Underwraps should be done from the butt end toward the rod tip, and packed / burnished TOWARD THE BUTT. This is because of the rod's taper. Packing the threads toward the rod tip would loosen them.

And most people that do a decorative butt wrap would start their underwrap and / or pattern at, or on, the fore-grip side. Then move toward the rod-tip. ... Whatever works, Levi. It's the "field imperative". -Cliff Hall-

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Re: wrapping: towards or away
Posted by: John Meyer (---.balt.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 23, 2005 02:52PM

I guess its just what you get used to. My first lathe was a clemens and it turned toward me. I used a book for tention. I sold that lathe a long time ago(mistake), now I have a rodsmith. It turns away from me. I'm just getting used to it but its weird? A nice feature would be a switch to toggle the direction. That would give you a reverse feature that would be nice to have...

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Re: wrapping: towards or away
Posted by: Pat Ryan (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: January 23, 2005 07:37PM

Thank you Cliff Hall. I have my first rod laid out and started to practice wraps today. I was getting very fustrated when packing the thread because they would get loose on me. I was going to post a question about it until I read your post. It is so simple, I don't know how I missed it. Packing your wraps toward the butt of the blank is one of the little tips rookies like me need to hear.

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Re: wrapping: towards or away
Posted by: Cliff Hall (---.dialup.ufl.edu)
Date: January 23, 2005 09:20PM

You're very welcome, Pat Ryan. And thanks for letting me know how the details of my long-winded Reply helped. Sometimes I feel like I border on pedantic and over-kill. But I know how all the parts of a problem have to be discussed in order to shed light on our options & choices in any given situation. Those details make the difference. Best Wishes, Pat. -Cliff Hall-

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Re: wrapping: towards or away
Posted by: Anonymous User (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: January 24, 2005 11:31PM

Your alright, Cliff. along the same lines, is there a reason you cant just turn a lathe around? Guess youd have to switch your thread carriage thingy around, too. I just made a hand wrapper, and wrapped a whole rod in a few hours, and although I am now having second thoughts on my thread choice, I'm about as happy as can be. Trips me out though, how my eyes slowly cross, and I gotta step back and look away for a minute. Now that I have so much more control (versus winding the thread around the rod by hand) I can see all sorts of ways to incorporate other threads and patterns, although I foresee alot of thread hanging around, I think I can see how some people weave, which I have only heard about on this board. I,m gonna make a few more rods, then maybe take the Guilds cert. test, then start on the big project. Man its gonna be tough, and I want it to be great. I read a post from a guy who does like 120 poles a week so he said, for a manufacturer. Also gotta be tough, hes probably got power though. Cliff , long winded : no way, I read 700-800 page books in hours. Pedantic: maybe. LOL!!! Respectfully, Levi

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