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Graphite arbors
Posted by:
Rich Levy
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Date: January 05, 2005 08:46AM
I have been scouring catalogs in anticipation of building my first rod, and in order to preserve the feel of my current rod, I am going with a Fuji 22mm reel seat. I see that the appropriate graphite arbor has a 21 mm OD, so there's a fairly substantial gap of .031 inches between the arbor's OD and the seat's ID. Is that acceptable, or do I go to the next size arbor, which is too large and take down the OD? Re: Graphite arbors
Posted by:
Anonymous User
(Moderator)
Date: January 05, 2005 09:03AM
They're created undersized as most builders will never get them perfectly centered on the blank. At which point you'd never get the reel seat on. So, everybody leaves some margin for error. I suspect that after mounting the arbors you'll find the fit to be close, although not snug and things will be just fine.
If you desire absolute perfection (not needed by much admired) then buy the larger arbors, mount them and then take them down to a perfect slip fit. .......... Re: Graphite arbors
Posted by:
Mike Barkley
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Date: January 05, 2005 10:42AM
Give some thought to the F;ex coat arbors. lighter, more sensitive and very easy to work with. It's only my opinion, but I think that they are far superior to Graphite.
Mike Re: Graphite arbors
Posted by:
Anonymous User
(Moderator)
Date: January 05, 2005 11:36AM
The Fuji's are a closer fit, almost perfect in fact. Because you're dealing with one long arbor instead of two or more separate ones, a couple degrees of mis-alignment won't stop you from easily mounting the seat. Or you can mount the arbor in the seat first, then ream/bore to fit the blank. It's a great system.
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Posted by:
Mike Barkley
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Date: January 05, 2005 11:48AM
Tom,
Did you mean Flex Coat?????? Mike Re: Graphite arbors
Posted by:
Anonymous User
(Moderator)
Date: January 05, 2005 12:03PM
Yes, I meant the Flex Coat arbors are a closer fit. Sorry for any confusion.
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Posted by:
Matt Davis
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Date: January 05, 2005 01:14PM
Mike
The Flex Coat arbors are not lighter than the black graphite foam ones. As a matter of fact 1 full length Flex Coat arbor weighs nearly 3 times what 3 black graphite ones do. I've weighed them. Re: Graphite arbors
Posted by:
Anonymous User
(Moderator)
Date: January 05, 2005 01:21PM
The Fuji arbors are not graphite - they're brick-foam. If you cut the Flex Coat arbors into the same relative lengths, they weigh roughly about the same. Neither weighs very much, both being lighter than comparitive amounts of tape or wood or cork.
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Posted by:
Mike Barkley
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Date: January 05, 2005 01:24PM
Sorry about that, I thought they were lighter! Either way, the weight on either is negligible.I still prefer them
Mike Re: Graphite arbors
Posted by:
Rich Levy
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Date: January 05, 2005 03:16PM
What about the generic graphic arbors carried by Mudhole? Re: Graphite arbors
Posted by:
Chia-Chien Goh
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Date: January 05, 2005 04:57PM
I've tried those. The quality was not as high as the fuji graphite arbors. I had to do more shaping on the outside of those than I did with the fuji ones. It could also be that I might have done a really poor job of reaming those opposed to the much better job I normally do (being rushed @#$%&!) If I were you, I'd spend the extra and get the fuji arbors. haven't tried the flex coat arbors so I can't say anything intelligent about them. Re: Graphite arbors
Posted by:
Richard Carlsen
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Date: January 05, 2005 05:21PM
Tom posted
"Or you can mount the arbor in the seat first, then ream/bore to fit the blank. It's a great system." Now that is backward to what one would normally do but it makes sense. Just another good example of the "Tricks of the Trade" that can be picked up here. Thank you Tom. Re: Graphite arbors
Posted by:
Matt Davis
(66.228.243.---)
Date: January 05, 2005 06:25PM
I rechecked my notes...
1 Flex Coat 17mm, 4.22" long arbor, weighs 89 grains. 3 of the 17mm graphite color arbors, measuring a total of 3.66", weigh 47.1 grains. So, the Flex Coat arbor is only going to be about twice the weight. I'm still undecided about which I prefer. I like them both. Re: Graphite arbors
Posted by:
Mike Barkley
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Date: January 05, 2005 07:30PM
It has to be less than that. you're talking about a 3/4" difference in length. You would have to cut the Flexcoat arbor down to the same size of the 3 other arbors (or just cut a piece of Flexcoat arbor to the same length as one of the other arbors. Are the ID and OD of both identical? that also would have to be considered.
Mike Re: Graphite arbors
Posted by:
Anonymous User
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Date: January 05, 2005 07:36PM
Like Flex Coat - cost, availability, length, fit up speed
Run piloted Flexcoat arbor tool with hand drill - three seconds Stare at it for 10 seconds and decide how long of a piece. Hack saw off the piece I need - three seconds. Ream inside with tapered reamer and fit to blank - 1.34 minutes Slide on blank to end of seat place on U40 pretreated blank Coat outside arbor with U40 - five seconds Shove in place with mixing stick - two seconds Place foregrip and winding check - ten seconds Wipe down and clean external area with denatured alcohol - three minutes. Drink a few toddies while the thing is drying. Don't Worry Be Happy!! This will not be the thing that brings this rod back in the door for a Warranty Meeting. Gon Fishn Re: Graphite arbors
Posted by:
Matt Davis
(66.228.243.---)
Date: January 06, 2005 07:01AM
Ok, I've got one cut down...
The Flex coat arbor measures, .654 OD x .254 ID x .931 L and weighs 22 grains. The graphite foam one measures .670 OD x .268 ID x 1.018 and weighs 14 grains. Re: Graphite arbors
Posted by:
Mike Barkley
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Date: January 06, 2005 10:05AM
Surprising! Goes to show they are both good. For 6 grams, I still prefer the ease of use of the Flexcoat. Personal preference, though
Mike Re: Graphite arbors
Posted by:
George Thurston
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Date: January 06, 2005 11:16AM
"grains" huh
I know what kinda scale you're using .... ;-) Re: Graphite arbors
Posted by:
Matt Davis
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Date: January 06, 2005 12:16PM
Yea, and I know its accurate because I haven't blown myself up yet!
Mike - it is most certainly personal preference. I, personally, am still torn. I like certain things about each of them. Re: Graphite arbors
Posted by:
George Thurston
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Date: January 06, 2005 04:45PM
Actually, I like the graphite foam ones, because they're easy to shape and I needed two, so I ordered two and I got two ....
BAGS full of them now. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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