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cp turns garnet dark
Posted by: karen erickson (---.dsl.zianet.com)
Date: December 11, 2004 08:35AM

I paid more attention this time to what I expected from my garnet colored thread wraps, and it's true, the cp leaves the color almost black. Is there any cure for this - thinner, thicker, bad cp?

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Re: cp turns garnet dark
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (---.152.54.25.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net)
Date: December 11, 2004 09:14AM

What type color preserver are you using? When applied, the CP should turn the thread a uniform dark color, but when dry, the color should come back up. You may lose a shade on darker blanks, but the color should return to near normal. Some CP's work better than others in this regard, but none of the modern acrylic or urethane/acrylics should make the thread permanently dark.

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Re: cp turns garnet dark
Posted by: karen erickson (---.dsl.zianet.com)
Date: December 11, 2004 10:25AM

It's gudebrod, and I thought I had noticed this before, but figured it was just my imagination. If I scratch a little at the wraps, the color comes up a little, but it's still way darker than the older wraps I have put on with this same bottle - does it "keep" OK?

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Re: cp turns garnet dark
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (---.152.54.235.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net)
Date: December 11, 2004 11:17AM

It should keep just fine (Gudebrod 811?). But the color of the thread should not darken more than one shade, even on very dark blanks. I'm not sure I wouldn't try another bottle, or even switch to something like the Glass Coat Professional Color Sealant. Garnet should not appear "black" with color preserver.


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Re: cp turns garnet dark
Posted by: Steve Bohrer (---.ipt.aol.com)
Date: December 11, 2004 12:19PM

The only thing I have found that will keep wraps near "off-the-spool color is Varathane crystal clear Diamond, blue can.

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Re: cp turns garnet dark
Posted by: karen erickson (---.dsl.zianet.com)
Date: December 11, 2004 12:43PM

Whoops, I just noticed what is probably the problem - I have been thinning the CP with brush cleaner, not alcohol as directed. Don't know how I got that in my head, but now, how can I get the CP off - alcohol?

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Re: cp turns garnet dark
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (---.152.57.141.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net)
Date: December 11, 2004 01:54PM

You shouldn't thin it at all if possible, but 10% to 20% with alcohol would be okay.

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Re: cp turns garnet dark
Posted by: Terry Blair (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: December 11, 2004 09:49PM

Karen, Just catching up, so,sorry if this is late. Just finnished an experiment with garnet after the same garnet finish on a light fly rod went waay dark. I was wrapping on a matte blank.

I wrapped the same garnet on a matte black blank, but this time I gave it 2 coats of CP(Gudebrod 811 and 24 hrs. between coats ).One coat of Flex Coat HB and the colors were stunning! Hopes this helps.

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Re: cp turns garnet dark
Posted by: Steve Lynas (209.135.109.---)
Date: December 12, 2004 02:21PM

I have just been testing Gudebrod A size Garnet colour code # 206 with a Gudenbrod Colour preserver for some wraps I am about to start and there is no doubt that the preserver is holding more of the true colour. I only applied one coat on my sample and have read that perhaps more then one is better. Probably a problem like you said with the preserver you got. Any suggestions on colour combos with the garnet I was thinking of the dark greens but then my sample wraps starting looking a little to much like a Christmas decoration. Any other colours that people think look nice with the garnet I'm all ears.

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Re: cp turns garnet dark
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (---.152.57.72.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net)
Date: December 12, 2004 04:51PM

One coat is generally all you'd need. The 2nd coat will not penetrate the first. Just don't over-thin the stuff, and don't thin it all if it's manageable enough to use as is.

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