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2 days ago
Michael Danek
Norman, Russ argued for more damping along with fast recovery. Perfect world? Maybe you cannot get the fastest recovery rate with high damping?
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2 days ago
Michael Danek
For the 3/8 and 18122 oz spinnerbaits I use, I really like my old SB812 blank from Loomis. Loads well with them, and has the power to snap the lures through weeds pretty well. If I remember right, it's a little shy of 7 feet and described as Med power, fast action.
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2 days ago
Michael Danek
Might be , Russell. But would that mean that to increase sensitivity we would add "damping" material to the mix? Then it wouldn't "ring" like some have reported their favorite rods do? I can testify that Point Blanks sound different when I bump them onto the rail of my boat. How fast do they damp compared to lesser blanks? I don't know. The faster a rod damped the higher
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2 days ago
Michael Danek
Norman, I'm working on it. I agree that CCF is so cumbersome as to be useless. AND I doubt if it has the ability to sort modest changes to the rod.
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2 days ago
Michael Danek
I was never proposing that frequency would become a standard or a published number. I think the value of the natural frequency is as a tool to help builders make decisions about cost vs value. With maximum sensitivity at a reasonable cost being the objective.
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2 days ago
Michael Danek
Phil, I'm only interested in the conditions and question I wrote in the original post. Aaron- Thanks for the ideas, but sophisticated tools like this are not necessary. I am very familiar with strain gages, even put an array into a running auto engine one time to measure the response of the oil pump under various running conditions. Ironically it was placed on what amounted to a flexible can
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2 days ago
Michael Danek
Sounds like you're doing fine. I would eliminate the 6M, but that is just what I would do; you seem to be doing well on your own.
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3 days ago
Michael Danek
Agree with Mark, length of the rod has little or no influence on the reduction train design. I see no reason for anything more than 3 reduction guides. I've done a couple rods with 2 and they work fine. Maybe got lucky.
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3 days ago
Michael Danek
Have you tried the KR software for use with KLH guides on the Anglersresource.net site? Using KLH reduction guides, right?
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4 days ago
Michael Danek
Phil, the premium blank makers are providing premium blanks, blanks that in general out-perform the cheapies. Most of the builders on this forum understand that except for a few anomalies, you get what you pay for.
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4 days ago
Michael Danek
I like the natural frequencies of all blanks and rods. By chopping it you will change its weight, power and action which will most likely be a more significant change than the frequency, which will change. But I don't chop blanks. With the multitude of blanks available it is unlikely that I won't be able to find one I like. I think chopping a blank to acheive a different natural frequen
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5 days ago
Michael Danek
Russell, I was working from memory on 400 cycles per minute, not seconds. But I could be mistaken. But please keep in mind that I'm working on clarifying the issue of "is sensitivity proportional to the natural frequency of the blank" for the conditions I've specified. Damping factor, IMHO, has nothing to do with it. What is the difference between experimentation and measuring?
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5 days ago
Michael Danek
Yes, Aaron, and since we fish rods and not blanks, the more we can know about the the tradeoffs between mass savings and cost with the components we add, the more effective, efficient, builders we will be.
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5 days ago
Michael Danek
Kent, it's physics, it's a spring mass system, and mass is part of the equation for natural frequency. Just like your pickup truck. Load it with a thousand pounds of sand and it will move up and down in response to road changes much slower than it will when unloaded. Go to the web site I quoted from, or do other searches for spring/mass systems and natural frequency. Unless the subst
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5 days ago
Michael Danek
Probably not going to be good any more, but what do you have to lose by trying? but you can always wait until you get some new and use it then. If the cork is soiled, clean it up then apply. Or lightly sand and apply.
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5 days ago
Michael Danek
"Adding things to a blank does not change its natural or resonant frequency." Kent, don't put a lot of money betting that mass added to a blank does not change its natural frequency. Why do you think that Bill Hanneman added mass to the tips of blanks/rods for his CCF process? To get the natural frequency of the system down to where it could be easily measured without expensive/comp
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5 days ago
Michael Danek
David, the issue I'm trying to get clarified is simple. Under the conditions I specified, is "sensitivity" proportional to natural frequency.. The consensus seems to be yes. And it has been stated and so far not questioned that if one changes the natural frequency by adding components, like guides, the natural frequency will change (get slower and therefore less sensitive).
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5 days ago
Michael Danek
Makes sense!
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5 days ago
Michael Danek
I was hoping you would chime in, Joe. So if one could measure the natural frequency of a bare blank, then keep measuring as components are added, he can see the influence on sensitivity of the differences in mass between the options. Whether he can actually feel the differences is debatable, but directionally, the natural frequency change reflects a deterioration of sensitivity as the compo
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5 days ago
Michael Danek
In my opinion 30 pound braid is overkill and will cost casting distance on spin, which is important in clear water Great Lakes smallmouths. By using a premium braid like Hitena PureLine you can go as high as 20 and still get very long casts, but even most braids at 20 will cost significant distance. Since the water will be relatively free of obstructions you can get away with lighter lines. 10
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6 days ago
Michael Danek
Here we go again.
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6 days ago
Michael Danek
The two line method is easier than the one line because the guides are not taking the load of the rod so they don't have to be tied on as tightly AND they can be moved without unloading the rod. Common rookie (and not so rookie) mistakes Misalignment of reel seat with respect to guides, misalignment of guides Epoxy getting where it doesn't belong-clean it up with liberal alcohol before it
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6 days ago
Michael Danek
I built a St Croix SCV for my first build. Screwed it up. My experience leads me to recommend that newbies start with a low or mid cost blank instead of a "top of the line" expensive one. Be very sure of your dimensions, dry fit the components noting which direction they go in, marking them if you want. If you plan on cutting a blank, cut only from the butt. And consider that y
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6 days ago
Michael Danek
Thank you, Kent.
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6 days ago
Michael Danek
Can a simple tap test differentiate between stainless steel and titanium guide trains? Meaning the sound is significantly different bare blank vs. SS guides vs. titanium guides?
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7 days ago
Michael Danek
Those who have removed thread wraps done both ways will probably argue that CP makes them easier to remove. As Bill says, both are plenty strong. The aspect of "factory color preserved"l thread that I don't like is that it lacks the sheen that you get with regular thread with CP. Some argue that CP is not necessary, but with regular thread you will get different colors when not
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7 days ago
Michael Danek
I'm mostly interested in the original question, under the conditions specified, is sensitivity proportional to natural frequency? Yes I've read most if not all of the old posts on this subject, Emory, Hanneman, and more. From those I would conclude the answer is yes. Thanks for your participation.
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7 days ago
Michael Danek
resonant, natural, whatever one prefers, but I stated the conditions I'm interested in. I'll use natural from now on. I thought I remembered being corrected before when I used "natural."
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7 days ago
Michael Danek
Defining sensitivity as the transmission of subtle bites to the hand, and resonant frequency as the frequency of free vibration after the tip is deflected and released (butt tightly secured, no weight attached to the tip) , is sensitivity proportional to resonant frequency? In other words, the higher the resonant frequency the more sensitive a blank/rod is?
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9 days ago
Michael Danek
Lance, that is exactly what I do except only two KB's. I guess I should invent and build a casting machine to see if replacing the third KB with a KT might give me more distance. Never know until you measure it.
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