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re and re.
Posted by: Ben Piva (---.mtnk.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com)
Date: February 03, 2002 07:28PM

Good evening, let me start by thanking Tom Kirkman for introducing me to this site, many of my questions have been answered thanks to many of you.
OK, lets begin. I purchased a used home made (custom) rod as a back up (broke the tip off my sage VPS 490), now I want to build my own fly rod, a Sage VPS Lite 379-3. Looking at how the custom rod was built I noticed that the spine (or spline) is off about 45 degrees to the guides and it has two strippers on it. The cork and reel seat will not do lol. The blank is a Sage graphite2 glf379rpb. Is this worth the time and trouble to redo the rod? If so what precautions should be taken? and should I try and salvage the guides and tip top?

Thank you for your replies. Benny.

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Re: re and re.
Posted by: Mike Ballard (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: February 03, 2002 08:47PM

I don't think I fully understand what you want to do. Are going to rebuild the broken rod with a new tip? Or just build your own from scratch and maybe just swap some components over?

If I was rebuilding the old rod I would leave the butt section as is even with the badly placed spine. But do spine the new tip and locate the guides where you want them. The tip creates most of this spine effect so the butt section can be off and not affect the rod too awful much.

On the new rod I'd get new components instead of swapping old stuff over. A set of guides, grip and seat don't have to run into major bucks if you select stuff carefully.

That's how I would look at the two scenarios.

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Re: re and re.
Posted by: Ben Piva (---.mtnk.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com)
Date: February 03, 2002 09:17PM

Thank you for your response, too much info I guess, forget the 2nd rod. Here's the condensed version:

I bought a used custom rod and discovered the guides were 45 degrees off from the spine, I'm not happy with the cork or the reel seat and it has 2 strippers. (The blank is a Sage graphite2 glf379rpb.) Is it worth the time and trouble to redo the rod? If so what precautions should be taken? and should I try and salvage the guides and tip top?

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Understand now
Posted by: Mike Ballard (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: February 03, 2002 09:34PM

Now I got it. It's a lot of trouble to remove and replace a handle and seat in my opinion. So, I think I would just rewrap the tip section to align the spine with how you want it. Then just fish it with the same grip and seat. Should work okay and if all you do is realign the guides without moving the spacing nothing should be hurt as far as the blank's finish goes.

Now if you really, really like this rod. Then maybe you would want to go through the process of removing the seat and grip. But for me the low price of so many good blanks right now would temp me to just do what I mentioned above on this used rod and then go out and buy a blank I really wanted and make the next one exactly as I wanted. Again this is just my personal feeling on the matter.

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Re: Understand now
Posted by: Andy Snedden (---.bctel.ca)
Date: February 04, 2002 08:32AM

Ben,
Mike makes some good points regards a new blank. If you really want a new grip and seat it is really not that hard to replace them. The hardest part is often getting over the fact that you are going to take a blade to the thing. Once you make the first cut it is a pretty simple matter to remove the grip. Make sure to cut away from the blank and make shallow careful cuts. Once you have most of the cork removed a little heat (I use a heat gun) will help remove the residual bonding agent. I always remove the seat before the grip by heating it an twisting it off.

Andy Snedden

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