Last night I wrapped and finished a white blank using Fuji Ultra Poly Size A Metallic Red thread. Everything seemed to be going well when I hit the hay last night.

When I awoke this morning I found the red thread had bled into the thread finish (Diamond II) surrounding the wrap. I am debating stripping and re-wrapping.

Any clue what causes this? It may have happened previously and I just didnt notice as I build primarily on black/gray blanks. I am certain it hasnt happened on the other handful of white blanks I have wrapped using other Fuji metallics, Justace metallic, Justace lame, Justace aurora and Alps varigated threads.

I dont use CP. I do apply some mild heat via a heat gun to help with bubble release as needed.

Solvents added to the thread finish might work on the pigment but if they weren't added then I don't know either.

Ross Pearson Wrote:
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> Solvents added to the thread finish might work on
> the pigment but if they weren't added then I don't
> know either.


No solvents added. Just cant make sense of it. Same batch of finish I have been using.

Its also randomly bleeding. Not every guide wrap appears to have bled. Places with more finish have more bleeding but also thats probably where I applied the most heat.

I’ve used several colors of Ultra Poly in both metallic and regular, without CP, and haven’t had this happen. This includes reds, purples, maroons, teals, and royal, and dunn. That’s with Gen4 and heat if needed. The only difference seems to be the Diamond II (it’s a well established product, though) or maybe something off-gassing from the blank.

I use D2 on all my rods with no problems, and never used Fuji. I usually put just enough finish on to seal it all, then after set put on the final smooth coat.

I have a white rod on the finisher now with a four wrap accent in same color. There is a faint tinge of red in the finish at some of the bands. Thread is Prowrap Metallic, Generation 4 finish. I did thin the first coat with acetone to penetrate the threads well. There ain't no way I am stripping it and re-wrapping.

From your previous post:

More finish + More heat = More bleeding

Sounds like the heated finish is releasing dye from the thread. Maybe try a test wrap with no heat to see if the thread still bleeds.

Releasing all the bubbles from the finish BEFORE I apply it keeps me from having to heat my finish to release bubbles. After it's mixed I pour my finish out on a piece of foil and breathe on it to release any bubbles. I carefully load my brushes with the epoxy to not introduce any air into the finish and it's very rare that I have a bubble appear on a finished wrap.

Thanks Dan.

I always get bubbles with metallic threads. Not so much with normal poly thread.

I will definitely be more mindful and use heat more sparingly on metallic threads on white blanks in the future. Just surprised more than anything. Ive used metallics a lot and on white blanks several time without this issue.