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Re: Most Sensitive Rod Blank
Posted by: Spencer Phipps (---)
Date: July 26, 2024 12:28PM

You can ask, but I can't imagine anyone has tried every rod on the market, so they give a limited opinion. You could ask the same about beer, or anything else and get a similar limited opinion, myself I think the 80's in country San Miguel would be my first choice for beer.

Re: Most Sensitive Rod Blank
Posted by: Kendall Cikanek (---)
Date: July 26, 2024 11:29PM

Patrick Coco Wrote:
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> Point blank
> NFC Xray
> NFC Xray C6O2
> Rainshadow eternity rx10
> Rodgeeks Carbon 5
>
> Those will all get you in the same ballpark as the
> NRX+. At that level, it's all subjective, but
> every one of those blanks is extremely sensitive.

Three pages ago, the first reply was spot-on. I’ve built on three of these (with a fourth in process), and they are all so sensitive that fishing line choice and quality of build become more important than any differences. One of the other ones on this list uses a similar, or the same Toray material as the Eternity. I can feel the inhale event on all of them. If I am off a little on maintaining touch and/or visual contact, none of these rods are the weakest link at that moment. Most of the time they are more sensitive than an angler’s ability to feel their full potential. It’s actually very hard to consistently feel everything that today’s rod and line technology offers. Which one is best just depends on which model most fits the intended use for a particular build. I’m most familiar and comfortable with the Carbon5/SCV line, but I wouldn’t argue with someone equally confident with one of the others.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/27/2024 12:06AM by Kendall Cikanek.

Re: Most Sensitive Rod Blank
Posted by: David Baylor (---.res6.spectrum.com)
Date: July 27, 2024 12:53AM

I've built on blanks from three of the 5 series of blanks listed above. In order of what I believe are the most sensitive.

NFC Xray C6O2

Rainshadow Eternity RX10

NFC X ray

The RX10 and NFC X ray are extremely close, with an ever so slight nod to the RX10. On the other hand, there is by my definition, a noticeable uptick in sensitivity, with the C6O2 rods I've built.

All of the rods I'm comparing, are within 1" of being the same length. The only major difference between them, is the grips I have on them. The C6O2 rods use NFC XO skeleton grips. The others, either cork, or foam core carbon fiber skinned grips

Re: Most Sensitive Rod Blank
Posted by: Kendall Cikanek (---)
Date: July 27, 2024 02:08AM

Tom Kirkman Wrote:
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> Not a story - a practical test. Unless there is
> some sort of electrical current passing through
> the line and down the rod, you are left with
> nothing but leverage, which entails rod length.
>
> ................

It’s changing tension you feel on subtle bites (vibration transmission has virtually nothing to do with it), and I agree with Tom that leverage determines most of that. Low weight helps to not mute that as does low stretch line with very low drag. Low drag equals smooth line with low diameter. Bites hard enough to impart resonance to the blank material occur, but punch-drunk heavyweight boxers could feel these wearing 16oz gloves. A dense, light weight blank isn’t going to mute tension changes as much as a heavy floppy bank or the ultimate example of a wet noodle. It’s not that these blanks have higher natural vibration frequency. The bites that pop or strum the tip aren’t again in question.

Most subtle bites happen on the fall so angler skill and focus are paramount. A ideal match of tension to lure, line, and spool friction isn’t always easy to get to. Too little tension on the bait makes it hard to detect the change unless a visual cue is present. Too much mutes the action that creates the bite. Fishing current can be a big help in comparison to a gravity fall.

Re: Most Sensitive Rod Blank
Posted by: Michael Danek (192.183.62.---)
Date: July 27, 2024 06:43AM

"(vibration transmission has virtually nothing to do with it)," It is technically logical to conclude that the rod blank which best transmits changing tension would also be the one that best transmits vibration, and vice versa. We are back at the "sensitivometer" which never showed up with blanks of near equal other characteristics, such as length, power, and action.

Spencer has it right once again. (In my opinion)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/27/2024 06:44AM by Michael Danek.

Re: Most Sensitive Rod Blank
Posted by: David Baylor (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: July 27, 2024 08:24AM

A bare blank's ability to transmit vibration from one end to the other, as it's lying on a table, is not dependent on its' mechanical advantage. Therefore, its' length in that regard, is irrelevant.

It's true that the testing with the "sensitivometer" that Alex shared near the bottom of page 12 of the "Sensitive Topic" thread he authored, [www.rodbuilding.org] was done on two very dissimilar blanks. Those blanks were chosen for a specific reason that I won't go into here, But the blanks used in the test were of the same length. So their lengths played no role in the testing.

Earlier in this thread it was asked if changing reel seat location, or holding a rod in a different location, will affect it's sensitivity. In use, yes. In a bench test, no.

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