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Epoxy over factory woven graphite cores
Posted by: Dean Veltman (181.215.172.---)
Date: May 18, 2023 10:04PM

I have always applied rod finish over the factory woven graphite grips. Has anyone else had the epoxy go on fine and then put it in the drying box and it develop HUGE bubbles by epoxy standards? This is a first. I have done it this way for awhile and this has never happened before. Thankfully, it sands down pretty good and can apply the urethane still, a few minor imperfections. It did this twice in a row.

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Re: Epoxy over factory woven graphite cores
Posted by: Les Cline (---)
Date: May 19, 2023 08:22AM

Dean -

No, I have not had that happen....especially if the epoxy went on bubble-free. Spitball: Maybe the CF material was not wetted out completely when it was made and had more air-spaces within the fibers? I've not experienced the sudden appearance of bubbles on a CF grip. At any rate, as you mentioned, it is relatively easy to sand down.

Something changed from your previously successful attempts....or else you would get the same results, right?.

What are your thoughts on what changed?

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Re: Epoxy over factory woven graphite cores
Posted by: Dean Veltman (92.119.18.---)
Date: May 19, 2023 01:24PM

I did switch to a different brand of epoxy, I will need to look when I get home and see what my epoxies are (gong through older epoxy first). This batch of grips was NFC and most of my previous ones were CFX, so could be a reaction there. But, unfortunately that is 2 variables to sort out.

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Re: Epoxy over factory woven graphite cores
Posted by: Dean Veltman (193.43.135.---)
Date: May 19, 2023 01:25PM



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Re: Epoxy over factory woven graphite cores
Posted by: Dean Veltman (92.119.18.---)
Date: May 19, 2023 01:28PM

Epoxy was nice and smooth, then after turning for awhile, big, huge bubbles. Used heat to try and pop them, but they would return. Definitely bubbles, I think this picture was after I tried to pop them with heat or a needle.

It all worked out, just never had this happen before.

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Re: Epoxy over factory woven graphite cores
Posted by: Mark Brassett (---)
Date: May 19, 2023 01:39PM

Pretty scary. Whats the Xmas lights for?

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Re: Epoxy over factory woven graphite cores
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: May 19, 2023 02:48PM

Looks you got it hot. No need to heat epoxy. Let it do what it was designed to do.

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Re: Epoxy over factory woven graphite cores
Posted by: Dean Veltman (45.14.195.---)
Date: May 19, 2023 04:17PM

Maybe got too hot, but every grip and rod I have built has been dried in that exact box with the Christmas tree lights. It usually brings temps
up to the 70-80 range. My shop is usually around 60-65 except in the summer when it is whatever Michigan summer weather dictates.

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Re: Epoxy over factory woven graphite cores
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: May 19, 2023 04:34PM

Bubbles are air in the grip and/or the finish. When heated, the air expands. If it happens early enough in the process, those bubbles usually escape. A little later when the epoxy has already reached a certain stage in the setting process, the bubbles may still escape but the epoxy will not flow back into position. Maybe you had a timing issue on this one or more trapped air than usual.

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Re: Epoxy over factory woven graphite cores
Posted by: Mark Brassett (---)
Date: May 20, 2023 12:29PM

Is it a bad idea to apply PG instead of epoxy on these grips?

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Re: Epoxy over factory woven graphite cores
Posted by: Norman Miller (Moderator)
Date: May 20, 2023 03:08PM

I only use PG on these foam core carbon fiber grips. Tried epoxy once and didn’t like it. So, for me I will use PG or no coating at all.
Norm

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Re: Epoxy over factory woven graphite cores
Posted by: Dean Veltman (45.14.195.---)
Date: May 20, 2023 04:01PM

I tried a few with no coating and did not like that. The texture holds grime pretty good.

My first ones I did with just PG. They were fine but do not pop like the epoxy and PG. PG does
not fill in the texture.

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