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XO Skeleton Carbon Grip
Posted by: Aleks Maslov (Moderator)
Date: May 17, 2023 11:41PM


We combined one of our popular rear grip shapes with a carbon reel seat! The result? A seamless rear grip with a reel seat, that is incredibly comfortable, lightweight, and DOES NOT require the blank to go to the end of the grip. All the glue surface that you need is in the reel-seat area, so the remainder of the grip is hollow, with nothing inside, (Thats why we call it the XO Skeleton, as there is nothing inside!) Don’t worry, the breaking strength of the grip is 59lbs – and what this means is that it is impossible to break without the help of some heavy machinery. No arbors means less weight, and more sensitivity.

For those looking for more stats:

Grip Length Spinning: 15.5"

Grip Length Casting: 14.5"

Grip Weight: 30grams

Tube Diameter (at reel seat) 14.7m

Finish: Matte, Smooth

Sold only as a kit (locking nut and EVA cap)

[northforkcomposites.com]

Thanks for looking!
Aleks

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Re: XO Skeleton Carbon Grip
Posted by: Aleks Maslov (Moderator)
Date: May 17, 2023 11:48PM


Here’s a few more shots:

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Re: XO Skeleton Carbon Grip
Posted by: Aleks Maslov (Moderator)
Date: May 17, 2023 11:50PM


One more:

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Re: XO Skeleton Carbon Grip
Posted by: David Baylor (---.neo.res.rr.com)
Date: May 18, 2023 06:51AM

I got something about this in my e mail the other day. Very cool looking, and definitely something I'd consider using, but I do have some questions.

The first one is probably self explanatory, but just to be sure. The lengths given are end to end lengths,, correct?

Second question. What size reel seat would the reel seat portion of the grips correspond with? 16? 17? ....

Third question. Is there a special arbor that comes with the grip, or is it a build your own, or use a polyurethane arbor? And would a standard polyurethane arbor be crush resistant enough to withstand the amount of pressure that type of grip blank connection is going to see?

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Re: XO Skeleton Carbon Grip
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: May 18, 2023 12:18PM

With a little creative thinking, these handles open up a wide range of possibilities. They will also allow you to obtain a faster action from any rod blank than the blank itself possesses.

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Re: XO Skeleton Carbon Grip
Posted by: Norman Miller (Moderator)
Date: May 18, 2023 01:28PM

They would certainly give any rod a very unique look. With a 14.7 ID at the reel seat end you should be able to shim it in place with a full length size16 polyurethane foam arbor which has an OD of about 15 mm. I’ll probably order one of each to give them a try.
Norm

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Re: XO Skeleton Carbon Grip
Posted by: Mark Brassett (---)
Date: May 18, 2023 03:12PM

I love the way the look. Still need confirmation on the length. 15" from the front of the reel seat or the base. Its a bit too long for my type of fishing if the rear grip is 15"

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Re: XO Skeleton Carbon Grip
Posted by: Scott Appley (---.ccgov.net)
Date: May 18, 2023 04:46PM

From NFC web sight, "Full Rear Grip Length – 15.5 Inches from Reel Seat to EVA Cap, ID of Barrel at Reel Seat: 14.7mm, Weight: 30 grams (without EVA cap and locking nut) "
Looking at the photo's it looks like the handle is 15" then the reel seat.

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Re: XO Skeleton Carbon Grip
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: May 18, 2023 05:35PM

Mark Brassett Wrote:
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> I love the way the look. Still need confirmation
> on the length. 15" from the front of the reel
> seat or the base. Its a bit too long for my type
> of fishing if the rear grip is 15"


15 inches from the front of the seat (so the total includes the seat) is a more realistic and usable length for most fresh and light saltwater use. However, if the 15 inches is from the rear of the seat, there is a way to shorten things. I'll stand down on that until we find out the actual overall length.

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Re: XO Skeleton Carbon Grip
Posted by: David Baylor (---.res6.spectrum.com)
Date: May 18, 2023 05:37PM

Yes you can definitely come up with some unique combinations using different blank lengths.

My interpretation of their wording is that the reel seat is included in the length. They call the entire thing a "grip" That's why I said it was probably self explanatory in my initial post. So for the casting grip, assuming the length of what would be considered the reel seat, is the same length as a size 16 Fuji TCSD reel seat, 4.5", that would make what would generally be referred to as the rear grip, 10" long. That would be a usable length for 7' - 7' 6" rods for me personally.

I just can't see it being any other way. NFC understands the market for this kind of product. And they've surely went to great expense in the design and making of them. They're not going to make something that people won't buy. They're better than that.

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Re: XO Skeleton Carbon Grip
Posted by: Lynn Behler (---.44.66.72.res-cmts.leh.ptd.net)
Date: May 18, 2023 07:13PM

How does one go about installing it? Kinda hard to know what you're thinking NFC. How about some fundamental installation instructions for some of us who may be less intuitive?

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Re: XO Skeleton Carbon Grip
Posted by: Tim Scott (---)
Date: May 18, 2023 07:23PM

The soft touch are offered in 9.5 and 14.5, so it could easily be either. They certainly look long

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Re: XO Skeleton Carbon Grip
Posted by: Aleks Maslov (Moderator)
Date: May 19, 2023 12:39PM

Hi Everyone,

14.5 and 15.5 are the total length of the grip + reel seat.

Lynn,

There is a lot you can do.

If the blank diameter is about 13.5-14.5mm you don't need an arbor. Add glue to the last three inches of the blank, and insert it just past the reel seat area.

If the blank diameter is small enough, you can insert it all the way to the butt of the grip, anchor it in the EVA cap, add an arbor at the bottom if you wish, and add one at the top of the grip under the reel seat.

The point is that you can put the blank all the way though, or you don't have to. The grip is stiff enough to take 59lbs of vertical deadlift at the reel seat.

By removing, or not using the last foot or so of the blank, you save the weight, but don't lose any power, as there is no flex in the grip.

Best,
Aleks

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Re: XO Skeleton Carbon Grip
Posted by: Dean Veltman (92.119.18.---)
Date: May 19, 2023 01:30PM

If the blank does not extend to the back, the rod weight will be lighter than other building techniques but will balance be off because of much less weight behind the reel seat?

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Re: XO Skeleton Carbon Grip
Posted by: Mike Ballard (---.ip-54-39-133.net)
Date: May 19, 2023 02:55PM

Aleks Maslov Wrote:
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> Hi Everyone,
>
> 14.5 and 15.5 are the total length of the grip +
> reel seat.
>
> Lynn,
>
> There is a lot you can do.
>
> If the blank diameter is about 13.5-14.5mm you
> don't need an arbor. Add glue to the last three
> inches of the blank, and insert it just past the
> reel seat area.
>
> If the blank diameter is small enough, you can
> insert it all the way to the butt of the grip,
> anchor it in the EVA cap, add an arbor at the
> bottom if you wish, and add one at the top of the
> grip under the reel seat.
>
> The point is that you can put the blank all the
> way though, or you don't have to. The grip is
> stiff enough to take 59lbs of vertical deadlift at
> the reel seat.
>
> By removing, or not using the last foot or so of
> the blank, you save the weight, but don't lose any
> power, as there is no flex in the grip.
>
> Best,
> Aleks


It only takes 9lbs on the tip end of a 7 foot rod to generate 59 lbs at the reel seat. So lifting 59 lbs just with the handle generates the same force on the handle as lifting about 9 pounds from the rod tip on a 7 foot rod does on the handle. Have any break tests been done with the handle and blank together or just with the handle itself? I do like these but want to make sure they are not overcome when used on 7 to 8 foot rods.

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