I am trying to chose the best CB701 for my needs from NFC offering (this blank is being offered in IM, SM and Delta line) but I am confused with different specs of this blank published in various places.

First of all, tip & butt O.D.'s from the NFC website do not match paramaters from their online catalogue - so I don't know which should I follow.

Secondly, CCS paramteres ( IP, AA ) differ as well - for instance for the IM version I've found IP of 313 and 198 - so big difference.

I know that manufactures redesign their blank from time to time and the data collected at the unspecified period of time might not be valid anymore. Therefore I would like to take opportunity and kindly ask owners of CB701 acquired say within last year to share specs of CB701 they have

Best regards,
Pavel



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/25/2022 04:59AM by Pawel Tymendorf.

Pavel check your source, on sites with multiple blanks measured you can sometimes get a cross threaded eyeball and read two lines instead of one. I have seen it a couple places over a year apart and they seem to be the 290's to 310's about what you would expect and pretty much what NFC's graphs show.

I've checked.

CB701 Delta: online catalogue tip 5.0, butt 0.518, wgt 1.8 oz NFC website tip 4.6, butt 0.49, wgt 1.83 oz Rodhouse measurement tip 5.0, butt 0.51, wgt 1.8 oz

CB701 SM: online catalogue tip 5.5, butt 0.493, wgt 1.7 oz NFC website tip 4.4, butt 0.49, wgt 1.9 oz

CB701 IM: online catalogue tip 5.5, butt 0.510 wgt 1.8 oz NFC website tip 4.6, butt 0.49, wgt 1.7 oz


So Delta version of CB701 seems to be verified - Rodhouse measurements match online catalague. Unfortunatelly, Rodhouse do not sell SM and IM version of this blank.
Interestingly, CCS public database provides as follows:

CB701 IM: IP = 318, AA = 79
CB701 SM: IP = 272 AA = 75

I've found a post from 2013 by Matt from Otterods at the other forum with following specs regarding IM version of CB701: IP = 198, AA = 62

Best regards,
Pavel



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/26/2022 04:50AM by Pawel Tymendorf.

All of these CCS power numbers are pretty low-what are you expecting the rods to do? What weight lures to cast? By the way, 75 and 79 are pretty high AA numbers for crankbait rods, if that's what these are supposed to be. I personally don't mind AA's that high for cranks, but most fishermen expect lower AA's for cranks.

I had 278:76 for the CB701, probably the SM
I also have the delta, just not home to measure it

Pawel Tymendorf
>
> I've found a post from 2013 by Matt from Otterods
> at the other forum with following specs regarding
> IM version of CB701: IP = 198, AA = 62

Just a heads up the numbers from MattD from otterods are RDA not CCS. Its the same in the RDA database too:

CB701 IM 200 grams power and 62 degree tip angle

Matt Ruggie Wrote:
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> Pawel Tymendorf
> >
> > I've found a post from 2013 by Matt from
> Otterods
> > at the other forum with following specs
> regarding
> > IM version of CB701: IP = 198, AA = 62
>
> Just a heads up the numbers from MattD from
> otterods are RDA not CCS. Its the same in the RDA
> database too:
>
> CB701 IM 200 grams power and 62 degree tip angle


Ah, I see.... this explaines a lot. How does RDA transfer into CCS, is it possible to recalculate from RDA into CCS ? I am sorry but I am not familiar with RDA

Best regards,
Pavel

Pawel Tymendorf Wrote:
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> Matt Ruggie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Pawel Tymendorf
> > >
> > > I've found a post from 2013 by Matt from
> > Otterods
> > > at the other forum with following specs
> > regarding
> > > IM version of CB701: IP = 198, AA = 62
> >
> > Just a heads up the numbers from MattD from
> > otterods are RDA not CCS. Its the same in the
> RDA
> > database too:
> >
> > CB701 IM 200 grams power and 62 degree tip
> angle
>
>
> Ah, I see.... this explaines a lot. How does RDA
> transfer into CCS, is it possible to recalculate
> from RDA into CCS ? I am sorry but I am not
> familiar with RDA

roughly yeah. but i would trust the ccs numbers ya found and what spencer said over anything else

by the numbers it looks like its really close to the c70MM St croix which were very soft blanks. on paper anyway.

interesting the very high ccs AA of 79 degrees which would indicate XF action yet described as a moderate action blank

Pawel,
May be off little help but , when I was considering an NFC blank , I found the same differences you mentioned . Everyone here advised me to only look at the specs listed in the catalog . Not sure why there is a difference but , supposedly the catalog is the go to source for specs .
Ron

Ronald Atchley Wrote:
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> Pawel,
> May be off little help but , when I was
> considering an NFC blank , I found the same
> differences you mentioned . Everyone here advised
> me to only look at the specs listed in the catalog
> . Not sure why there is a difference but ,
> supposedly the catalog is the go to source for
> specs .
> Ron
x2....i was given the same advice

RDA doesn't transfer and if you never knew another thing about it you wouldn't have missed much. Theft of another's ideas done poorly at best.

Thank you guys ! I will follow the catalogue and will not bother with RDA data then

Best regards,
Pavel



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/27/2022 02:54AM by Pawel Tymendorf.

interesting the very high ccs AA of 79 degrees which would indicate XF action yet described as a moderate action blank

Yup.

theres a CCS public database with non fly blanks?

Ive looked at the link to the left a time or two and only ever saw fly blanks listed.

TIA
Matt

Not that I am aware of. There have been attempts, but never have had one that I know of remain viable.

Michael Danek Wrote:
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> Not that I am aware of. There have been attempts,
> but never have had one that I know of remain
> viable.

Pavel mentioned he found the data on the cb701 blanks in "CCS public database". i know i couldnt find one other than the link on the left which is all fly blanks.

thanks