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Point Blank PB801MXF
Posted by: John Nesse (---)
Date: November 17, 2022 11:57AM

I'm working on a specialty build for casting 5 1/2" rapala husky jerks for walleyes. It's a slow, pull-pause retrieve that benefits greatly from increased casting distance, a very light and sensitive blank, and to a slightly lesser extent a soft tip section that quickly transitions to a more powerful backbone. These are spinning rods with 10" rear grips. My preference dictates that it must be a one-piece blank. 8' or even a hair longer would be ideal. I mostly come up with hot shot blanks in my searches.

I've built two rods on the NFC 790-1(IM) blank and it's good but not perfect. That one is 7'9" and 2.47 ounces. It's rated as a mag medium for 1/4-5/8 lures, but like others I've found NFC's ratings to be less than perfect. Bottom line, the 790-1 is very nice for this for this but it could be a little longer, a little stiffer in the tip section, and a little less powerful. I also built one on a NFC 821-1 and while I don't have much fishing time on it, it seems a little too powerful. I do need it to bend when I reel in a 15" walleye!

The PB801MXF blank from Point Blank seems like it could be perfect, but at $200 I'm reluctant to order one without at least some first-hand information. Has anyone here built on or handled this blank? Anyone know what it was designed to do? It seems pretty unique in my search.

Lastly, I'm all ears for other recommendations. Thank you

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Re: Point Blank PB801MXF
Posted by: John Nesse (---)
Date: November 17, 2022 12:00PM

It's funny, I just read the other thread blanks for throwing jerkbaits (megabass 110). I think I basically want an 8' blank that does that well!

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Re: Point Blank PB801MXF
Posted by: El Bolinger (50.233.0.---)
Date: November 17, 2022 12:23PM

Have you used a hot shot blank before? I'm new but I've been reading a ton and watching videos and doing a lot of research and bumped into some things encouraging me to try things outside of their prescribed use if necessary or beneficial. If there isn't a casting or spinning blank you can find that fits the bill have you explored the specs and function of how a fly blank would work for you or some other atypical use for other non-spinning/casting blanks?

Sorry I can't offer any data or firsthand experience, but sometimes just being reminded that a trash barrel isn't a trash barrel if you don't put trash in it can be helpful. Goodluck with your search and your build!

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Re: Point Blank PB801MXF
Posted by: Spencer Phipps (---)
Date: November 17, 2022 12:37PM

Have you looked at the NFC SJ804-1? It's got more backbone than their specs would make you believe. They make a chinook salmon hover rod out of it at Edge Rods so it would not have a real soft tip, give them a call and see what they think, they have never steered me wrong.

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Re: Point Blank PB801MXF
Posted by: Michael Danek (---.adr01.alma.mi.frontiernet.net)
Date: November 17, 2022 01:27PM

Talking about interchanging hot shot blanks and fly blanks is, IMHO, really not feasible. What works for one most likely will not work well for the other. Hot shots often have AA's of 80 degrees or over. Even "fast action" fly blanks are more like about 70. They are really quite different.

It is possible that a hot shot would work for this application, but remember that its bend will be pretty limited to the tip area. But XFast on a long rod is not nearly the same as XFast on a short rod. It will be more forgiving than the same AA on a short rod.

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Re: Point Blank PB801MXF
Posted by: Norman Miller (---.lightspeed.jcsnms.sbcglobal.net)
Date: November 17, 2022 02:01PM

I will be ordering a PB801MXF for a friend who wants a long rod for inshore saltwater fishing. I’m pretty sure the power and AA specs listed on the PB website for that blank are RDA numbers not CCS numbers, but will check to make sure.
Norm

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Re: Point Blank PB801MXF
Posted by: John Nesse (---)
Date: November 17, 2022 02:41PM

Both of the NFC blanks that I've tried are hot shot blanks. I totally agree that it's worth considering blanks designed for other things. I don't think a fly rod blank would work but maybe there's an 8'6" one-piece 8-9 weight blank out there that I'm not aware of.

NFC's SJ 804-1 looks like a potential option. On their chart the power and action looks similar to the 821-1 blank but a little better for my purposes. I don't think I found that one in my search, and I honestly thought I had considered every NFC blank (I've purchased a lot of blanks from them). Thanks for mentioning it!

Still hoping to get more info about PB801MXF.

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Re: Point Blank PB801MXF
Posted by: Tim Scott (---)
Date: November 17, 2022 03:01PM

I have an 804 I’m about to wrap, if there is any info you need, let me know

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Re: Point Blank PB801MXF
Posted by: Michael Danek (---.adr01.alma.mi.frontiernet.net)
Date: November 17, 2022 03:49PM

Norman, I think you're right about the numbers being RDA. 65 is not very fast for a Point Blank "fast" as described by CCS. I presume you are checking to be sure. That looks like one light blank for its capability. Less than two ounces and casting that range of weights!

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Re: Point Blank PB801MXF
Posted by: Norman Miller (---.lightspeed.jcsnms.sbcglobal.net)
Date: November 17, 2022 04:13PM

Mick, I emailed Jim Ising about it’s spec.
Norm

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Re: Point Blank PB801MXF
Posted by: John Nesse (---)
Date: November 29, 2022 11:12AM

I'm wondering if there is any more information about the spec on this blank? Does anyone have specs on NFC SJ804-1? Tim Scott, I'm wondering if you could comment on the action? I ideally want a tip that will hold up to twitching a stickbait/jerkbait (like a #14 rapala husky jerk or a Megabass 110) but a blank that will still load up when fighting a fish like a 15" walleye or a 2# bass.

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