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Alps R-CAH LXL2 Fly Seat
Posted by: Brian Peck (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 16, 2022 12:32PM

Hello, hoping someone can help. I bought an Alps R-CAH LXL2 fly reel seat for my next build. The reel seat has bunch of cutouts to show the insert. They are separate pieces. My question is, how do I glue the reel seat to the insert without a ton of glue showing? There isn't much space on the reel seat that isn't cutout. Anybody used on of these before?

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Re: Alps R-CAH LXL2 Fly Seat
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (45.141.121.---)
Date: August 17, 2022 10:11AM

Brian,
That's a very good question
I never used a ported reel seat.
Intuitively - I would shy away from them becaue the epoxy bond has to be less than a non ported seat.
My guess is that you have to "worry" the excess epoxy out of the ports.
BUT!!! If you use a heavy dose of solvent - i.e DNA or Acetone - it will wick under the reel seat producing even less bonding.
I would use a bunch of dry "Q" tips to remove excess epoxy.

Question - does the bushing fit snug?? Or will that also have to be bushed with thread?
That's another issue.
Let us know what happens.

Have you asked ALPS??
Herb



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/17/2022 10:11AM by Herb Ladenheim.

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Re: Alps R-CAH LXL2 Fly Seat
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: August 17, 2022 11:06AM

I will assume that the spacer is longer than the ported portion of the seat. If this is so, then you would simple adhere the seat hardware to the portion of the spacer that doesn't show, i.e. the part of the spacer that is covered by the forward hood and rear threaded barrel.

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Re: Alps R-CAH LXL2 Fly Seat
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (45.141.121.---)
Date: August 17, 2022 01:27PM

That makes me nervous. May become loose after awhile. But i am belts and suspenders.
Herb

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Re: Alps R-CAH LXL2 Fly Seat
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---)
Date: August 17, 2022 05:45PM

I have built numerous fly rods with cut-out style reel seats, and assemble them just as Tom K suggests, never had an issue, even after hard continuous use.

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Re: Alps R-CAH LXL2 Fly Seat
Posted by: Brian Peck (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 30, 2022 02:22PM

Thanks for the replies. I will reach out to Alps to see what they say. This reel seat has machining so the hood doesn't rotate. As a result there is a slit that goes nearly the entire length of the seat. And the sides have the cutouts. So the only place to glue is really along where the reel foot would be. Here is a link to it:

[getbitoutdoors.com]

Hopefully Alps has some idea.

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Re: Alps R-CAH LXL2 Fly Seat
Posted by: Michael Danek (---.alma.mi.frontiernet.net)
Date: September 01, 2022 06:23AM

Before gluing read the article on surface preparation in the library. I've built three rods for family use using that seat with no issues.

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Re: Alps R-CAH LXL2 Fly Seat
Posted by: Tim Scott (---.source.akaquill.net)
Date: September 01, 2022 07:58AM

With that seat, I put a little glue in the hood end and spread around. Put insert in from opposite end. When insert is most of the way, put glue around the rear of the insert and push it in the rest of the way.

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Re: Alps R-CAH LXL2 Fly Seat
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---.inf6.spectrum.com)
Date: September 01, 2022 10:32AM

It depends whether this reel seat will be used for show or to fish with. If it's for show it makes little difference if the reel seat comes loose. No harm done, and it can easily be re-glued.

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Re: Alps R-CAH LXL2 Fly Seat
Posted by: Michael Danek (---.alma.mi.frontiernet.net)
Date: September 03, 2022 11:29AM

I just took a look at my 8 wt that has that seat and I found it perfectly clean of any epoxy. It has been used for probably about 6 years and feels solid like a rock. I used the process that Tim Scott and I think Tom K described. I also always prep the parts as recommended in the Library article.

My rod is not for show so strength of the bond is important to me. I don't have any rods that are just for show. If I did, they would be vintage, not modern.

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Re: Alps R-CAH LXL2 Fly Seat
Posted by: Ron Weber (---)
Date: September 04, 2022 08:02AM

Tim and Michael have hit the nail on the head installation wise. If one is really careful and does not twist while inserting, you can also apply a very thin line and layer along the area of the insert that will rest in the non gilled area. This can give you a little more contact surface, but I do not feel it is absolutely necessary

Ron Weber

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Re: Alps R-CAH LXL2 Fly Seat
Posted by: Brian Peck (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 05, 2022 01:23PM

Really appreciate the info. Just waiting on a NFC blank to be delivered and I will get the seat installed. I'll let you know how it goes!

Brian

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Re: Alps R-CAH LXL2 Fly Seat
Posted by: Michael Danek (---.alma.mi.frontiernet.net)
Date: September 05, 2022 05:56PM

Just a reminder, Brian, use the surface prep procedure from the library on both the seat and the blank. Probably not on the insert exc for the area that will be glued.

An easy way to prep the insides of seats is to put a piece of Scotchbrite into the slot of a shotgun cleaning tip on a section of the cleaning rod and drive it with a drill driver.

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