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Re: Rod "weight"
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---.inf6.spectrum.com)
Date: April 18, 2022 01:26PM

Be assured a fly line sold in a box which does not state "Made in the U.S.A." was not made in the U.S.A.. It was imported, with no name, in boxes containing several cubic feet of fly lines in bare coils held together by twist ties. Here in the U.S. these coils were marked up, labeled, and boxed by an American importer. Some of these imported lines don't get American labels and sold. They get advertised and sold on line with no line name, only the line weight, for around $17.00 for a 95 foot WF-F fly line. They perform every bit as well as my collection of $50 - $100 fly lines, and so far (3 years) have been as durable and capable as lines made by (or imported and labeled by) American retailers. You can not honestly knock these nameless, foreign-made fly lines until you try one.

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Re: Rod "weight"
Posted by: Michael Danek (---.alma.mi.frontiernet.net)
Date: April 18, 2022 05:44PM

Boy, was I wrong. I always thought you wanted to know where things were made so you could buy USA. Now it's clear, you want us to buy China.

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Re: Rod "weight"
Posted by: Terry Kirk (---)
Date: April 18, 2022 08:16PM

Everyone knows them chineese lines push farther than their American counterparts.

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Re: Rod "weight"
Posted by: Michael Danek (---.alma.mi.frontiernet.net)
Date: April 19, 2022 07:17AM

Terry, that's only because the Chinese rods they are cast with provide so muich more energy.

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Re: Rod "weight"
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---.inf6.spectrum.com)
Date: April 19, 2022 11:11AM

Buy whatever line makes you happy, but don't assume the line that comes in a box printed in English is American made. If the box your line comes in does NOT have "U.S.A" printed on it your line was NOT made in the U.S.A., and you have just supported an American importer with a hefty profit, not an American worker or company that makes fly lines.

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Re: Rod "weight"
Posted by: Michael Danek (---.alma.mi.frontiernet.net)
Date: April 19, 2022 11:36AM

Without profit the US would be Russia or China. Wages are sort of like profit. On a personal level. Not many of us work for nothing. Neither do companies. Without profit there would be no product. No fly lines. No fly rods. No blanks to build into rods. No components. No jobs.

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Re: Rod "weight"
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---)
Date: April 19, 2022 01:56PM

Mr. Ewaniki, American importers also have American workers! I suspect you have little financial knowledge only erroneous opinions.

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Re: Rod "weight"
Posted by: Terry Kirk (---)
Date: April 19, 2022 07:42PM

Phil Ewanicki Wrote:
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> Buy whatever line makes you happy, but don't
> assume the line that comes in a box printed in
> English is American made. If the box your line
> comes in does NOT have "U.S.A" printed on it your
> line was NOT made in the U.S.A., and you have just
> supported an American importer with a hefty
> profit, not an American worker or company that
> makes fly lines.


So what's the problem? You have already stated the lines not made in America are just as good or better in this thread. Does this sound familiar?
hey perform every bit as well as my collection of $50 - $100 fly lines, and so far (3 years) have been as durable and capable as lines made by (or imported and labeled by) American retailers. You can not honestly knock these nameless, foreign-made fly lines until you try one.

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Re: Rod "weight"
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (97.104.222.---)
Date: April 27, 2022 07:52PM

The "American" component in many fly line sales consists of: #1 buying and importing packing-crates full of twist-tied, 95' hanks of fly lines made in Asia #2 Giving these lines an English name and putting that Anglicized name on individual boxes along with the name of the retail corporation #3 marking these lines up 300%-500% and shipping them to U.S. retailers. I will continue to buy and use anonymous, imported fly lines for less than $20 a line. Others are free to pay as much as they like for imported, U.S. packaged fly lines made in the Far East.

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Re: Rod "weight"
Posted by: Terry Kirk (---)
Date: April 29, 2022 05:39PM

Phil Ewanicki Wrote:
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> The "American" component in many fly line sales
> consists of: #1 buying and importing
> packing-crates full of twist-tied, 95' hanks of
> fly lines made in Asia #2 Giving these lines an
> English name and putting that Anglicized name on
> individual boxes along with the name of the retail
> corporation #3 marking these lines up 300%-500%
> and shipping them to U.S. retailers. I will
> continue to buy and use anonymous, imported fly
> lines for less than $20 a line. Others are free to
> pay as much as they like for imported, U.S.
> packaged fly lines made in the Far East.


What are the brand names you are saying are doing this. If you have no factual names that are researchable, then you are making stuff up again. We just want facts not surmised crap.

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Re: Rod "weight"
Posted by: ben belote (---.hsd1.va.comcast.net)
Date: April 29, 2022 05:48PM

I like the ones that. Say packaged in the USA..not made in the USA..

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